Pacific Rim(job) [AAR] ITAK_Linus (ASIA UNITA) vs Kaiser85 (Alleati)

Ti ci vanno gli aerei da trasporto e inizialmente o durano poco o servono comunque per altri airlift.
Ti serve anche un AF lvl4 e ce ne sono pochi. Giava ha già la possibilità di dare siluri quindi nada e l'area fra Batavia palembang Singapore e Borneo ha giusto palembang come AF lvl4.

Last, but not least, i siluri e vari bonus derivanti dall'HQ, stanno con la LCU "madre" e non coi frammenti quindi puoi spezzettare quanto vuoi ma il massimo che becchi sono i devices che trasporti, cioè air support e/o supporti. Nient'altro.

Quindi non è gamey perché è infattibile.

 

ricordo che lo avevo fatto in una partita e avevo modo di caricare siluri in diverse aree , perchè quando la unità madre viene eliminata le sue seguenti diventano operative.
Mi pare avessi siluri da Java a Darwin a Port Moresby, dove i wildbeest possono fare follie se non te li aspetti

 

Sarei curioso di vedere la cosa. Che io sappia gli HQ non si dividono. Ci sono references sul forum Matrix in materia?

 

Non ho mai capito esattamente come funzionasse la cosa, solo che in alcune basi avevo modo di caricare siluri e tanto mi è bastato.
Non ho cercato purtroppo mai nulla di preciso.

 

vuoi dire che il gioco tiene conto anche di questi dettagli?!?!

 

Sì.

Ci sta tu avessi un CommandHQ in range o tu fossi in range di un altro AirHQ.

 

QUESTO E' UN SECONDO GENNAIO MILLENOVECENTOQUARANTADUE​

TURNO ZEROZEROVENTISETTE​

Anticipazione (Spoiler): ROBISSIMA

AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR Jan 02, 42
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Submarine attack near San Francisco at 218,71

Japanese Ships
SS I-26

Allied Ships
xAK J.L. Luckenbach, Torpedo hits 1, heavy damage

xAK J.L. Luckenbach is sighted by SS I-26
SS I-26 launches 2 torpedoes at xAK J.L. Luckenbach


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Night Time Surface Combat, near Batavia at 49,98, Range 12,000 Yards

Japanese Ships
CA Suzuya
CL Sendai
CL Naka
CL Jintsu
CL Isuzu
CL Natori
CL Yura
CL Kuma
CL Tama
CL Kiso
DD Maikaze
DD Amatsukaze
DD Nowaki
DD Isonami
DD Uranami
DD Shikinami
DD Ayanami
DD Matsukaze
DD Hatakaze
DD Okikaze
DD Yakaze
DD Hokaze
DD Kuretake
DD Sanae
DD Yugao

Allied Ships
xAKL De Klerk, Shell hits 15, and is sunk
xAKL De Haan, Shell hits 10, and is sunk
xAKL Lematang, Shell hits 5, and is sunk
xAKL Meroendoeng, Shell hits 24, and is sunk
xAKL Siaoe, Shell hits 7, and is sunk
xAKL Siberoet, Shell hits 15, and is sunk
xAKL Sibolga, Shell hits 7, and is sunk

Japanese Ships Reported to be Approaching!
Allied TF begins to get underway
Improved night sighting under 100% moonlight
Maximum visibility in Clear Conditions and 100% moonlight: 12,000 yards
CONTACT: Japanese lookouts spot Allied task force at 12,000 yards
CONTACT: Allied lookouts spot Japanese task force at 12,000 yards
CL Kiso engages xAKL Meroendoeng at 12,000 yards
CL Kuma engages xAKL Meroendoeng at 12,000 yards
DD Yugao engages xAKL De Klerk at 12,000 yards
DD Hokaze engages xAKL De Haan at 12,000 yards
DD Yakaze engages xAKL De Klerk at 12,000 yards
DD Matsukaze engages xAKL De Klerk at 12,000 yards
Range closes to 9,000 yards
DD Yugao engages xAKL Siberoet at 9,000 yards
DD Kuretake engages xAKL Lematang at 9,000 yards
CL Natori engages xAKL Meroendoeng at 9,000 yards
DD Kuretake engages xAKL De Klerk at 9,000 yards
CL Sendai engages xAKL Meroendoeng at 9,000 yards
DD Yakaze engages xAKL Meroendoeng at 9,000 yards
DD Hatakaze engages xAKL Meroendoeng at 9,000 yards
DD Nowaki engages xAKL Meroendoeng at 9,000 yards
DD Amatsukaze engages xAKL Meroendoeng at 9,000 yards
Range closes to 7,000 yards
CL Tama engages xAKL Meroendoeng at 7,000 yards
CL Yura engages xAKL Meroendoeng at 7,000 yards
DD Yugao engages xAKL De Haan at 7,000 yards
CL Isuzu engages xAKL De Klerk at 7,000 yards
CL Jintsu engages xAKL Meroendoeng at 7,000 yards
DD Yugao engages xAKL Meroendoeng at 7,000 yards
DD Yakaze engages xAKL Siberoet at 7,000 yards
DD Okikaze engages xAKL Meroendoeng at 7,000 yards
DD Hatakaze engages xAKL Meroendoeng at 7,000 yards
Range closes to 6,000 yards
Massive explosion on xAKL Siberoet
DD Hokaze engages xAKL Siberoet at 6,000 yards
DD Amatsukaze engages xAKL Siaoe at 6,000 yards
xAKL Meroendoeng sunk by DD Amatsukaze at 6,000 yards
DD Yakaze engages xAKL De Haan at 6,000 yards
CL Natori engages xAKL De Klerk at 6,000 yards
Range closes to 4,000 yards
CA Suzuya engages xAKL Lematang at 4,000 yards
DD Yakaze engages xAKL Siberoet at 4,000 yards
DD Matsukaze engages xAKL Siaoe at 4,000 yards
DD Amatsukaze engages xAKL De Klerk at 4,000 yards
xAKL Lematang sunk by DD Nowaki at 4,000 yards
DD Maikaze engages xAKL De Haan at 4,000 yards
Range closes to 2,000 yards
DD Okikaze collides with DD Sanae at 49 , 98
DD Yugao engages xAKL Sibolga at 2,000 yards
xAKL Siberoet sunk by CL Sendai at 2,000 yards
xAKL Siaoe sunk by CL Tama at 2,000 yards
DD Kuretake engages xAKL De Haan at 2,000 yards
DD Yugao engages xAKL De Klerk at 2,000 yards
CL Jintsu engages xAKL De Haan at 2,000 yards
CL Sendai engages xAKL De Haan at 2,000 yards
Range increases to 3,000 yards
CL Sendai collides with DD Kuretake at 49 , 98
DD Matsukaze engages xAKL Sibolga at 3,000 yards
xAKL De Klerk sunk by DD Matsukaze at 3,000 yards
DD Shikinami engages xAKL Sibolga at 3,000 yards
xAKL Sibolga sunk by CA Suzuya at 3,000 yards
xAKL Sibolga sunk by CA Suzuya at 3,000 yards
Combat ends with last Allied ship sunk...


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TF 145 encounters mine field at Batavia (49,98)

Japanese Ships
CA Suzuya, Mine hits 1
CL Sendai, Mine hits 1



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Night Time Surface Combat, near Treasury Islands at 108,133, Range 8,000 Yards

Japanese Ships
CL Tenryu
CL Tatsuta
CL Yubari, Shell hits 9, heavy fires, heavy damage
DD Mutsuki
DD Kisaragi, Shell hits 1
DD Yayoi
DD Mochizuki, Shell hits 1
DD Oite
DD Hayate
DD Asanagi
DD Yunagi

Allied Ships
CA Australia, Shell hits 2
CL Boise, Shell hits 1
DD Alden, Shell hits 1, on fire
DD Edsall
DD John D. Edwards, Shell hits 1, on fire
DD Whipple

Improved night sighting under 100% moonlight
Maximum visibility in Overcast Conditions and 100% moonlight: 8,000 yards
Range closes to 10,000 yards...
Range closes to 8,000 yards...
CONTACT: Japanese lookouts spot Allied task force at 8,000 yards
CONTACT: Allied lookouts spot Japanese task force at 8,000 yards
Dechaineaux, E.F.V. crosses the 'T'
CL Yubari engages CA Australia at 8,000 yards
CL Boise engages CL Yubari at 8,000 yards
CL Tenryu engages CA Australia at 8,000 yards
CL Yubari engages DD John D. Edwards at 8,000 yards
DD Edsall engages DD Asanagi at 8,000 yards
DD Mutsuki engages DD Edsall at 8,000 yards
Range closes to 7,000 yards
CL Yubari engages CA Australia at 7,000 yards
CL Boise engages CL Yubari at 7,000 yards
DD Asanagi engages DD Whipple at 7,000 yards
DD Mochizuki engages DD John D. Edwards at 7,000 yards
DD Asanagi engages DD Alden at 7,000 yards
DD Alden engages DD Kisaragi at 7,000 yards
DD Oite engages DD Alden at 7,000 yards
DD Edsall engages DD Mochizuki at 7,000 yards
DD Edsall engages DD Yayoi at 7,000 yards
DD Kisaragi engages DD Alden at 7,000 yards
DD Mutsuki engages DD Whipple at 7,000 yards
Range closes to 6,000 yards
CL Tenryu engages CA Australia at 6,000 yards
CL Tatsuta engages CA Australia at 6,000 yards
DD Whipple engages DD Mochizuki at 6,000 yards
DD Yunagi engages DD John D. Edwards at 6,000 yards
DD Asanagi engages DD Whipple at 6,000 yards
DD Mutsuki engages DD Alden at 6,000 yards
DD Oite engages DD Alden at 6,000 yards
DD Yayoi engages DD John D. Edwards at 6,000 yards
DD Edsall engages DD Kisaragi at 6,000 yards
DD Alden engages DD Mutsuki at 6,000 yards
Range increases to 8,000 yards
CA Australia engages CL Yubari at 8,000 yards
CL Tatsuta engages CA Australia at 8,000 yards
CL Tenryu engages CA Australia at 8,000 yards
DD Yunagi engages DD John D. Edwards at 8,000 yards
DD Mochizuki engages DD Edsall at 8,000 yards
DD Asanagi engages DD Alden at 8,000 yards
DD Mochizuki engages DD Edsall at 8,000 yards
DD Yayoi engages DD John D. Edwards at 8,000 yards
DD Alden engages DD Kisaragi at 8,000 yards
DD Mutsuki engages DD Alden at 8,000 yards
Range increases to 10,000 yards
CA Australia engages CL Yubari at 10,000 yards
CL Yubari engages CL Boise at 10,000 yards
CL Tenryu engages DD Whipple at 10,000 yards
DD Asanagi engages DD John D. Edwards at 10,000 yards
DD Alden engages DD Asanagi at 10,000 yards
DD Mochizuki engages DD Alden at 10,000 yards
DD John D. Edwards engages DD Oite at 10,000 yards
DD Alden engages DD Mochizuki at 10,000 yards
DD Mutsuki engages DD Alden at 10,000 yards
Range increases to 11,000 yards
CA Australia engages CL Yubari at 11,000 yards
CL Tatsuta engages CA Australia at 11,000 yards
DD Whipple engages DD Mutsuki at 11,000 yards
DD John D. Edwards engages DD Yunagi at 11,000 yards
DD Yunagi engages DD Edsall at 11,000 yards
DD Alden engages DD Yunagi at 11,000 yards
DD Alden engages DD Oite at 11,000 yards
DD Kisaragi engages DD Whipple at 11,000 yards
CL Yubari engages CA Australia at 11,000 yards
CL Tatsuta engages CA Australia at 11,000 yards
CA Australia engages CL Tenryu at 11,000 yards
DD Yayoi engages DD John D. Edwards at 11,000 yards
DD John D. Edwards engages DD Asanagi at 11,000 yards
DD Yunagi engages DD Alden at 11,000 yards
DD John D. Edwards engages DD Oite at 11,000 yards
DD Edsall engages DD Mochizuki at 11,000 yards
DD Yayoi engages DD Alden at 11,000 yards
DD Kisaragi engages DD John D. Edwards at 11,000 yards
DD John D. Edwards engages DD Mutsuki at 11,000 yards
Range closes to 8,000 yards
CL Yubari engages CA Australia at 8,000 yards
CA Australia engages CL Tatsuta at 8,000 yards
CA Australia engages CL Tenryu at 8,000 yards
DD Edsall engages DD Yunagi at 8,000 yards
DD Edsall engages DD Asanagi at 8,000 yards
DD Alden engages DD Yayoi at 8,000 yards
DD Oite engages DD John D. Edwards at 8,000 yards
DD Mochizuki engages DD John D. Edwards at 8,000 yards
DD Yayoi engages DD John D. Edwards at 8,000 yards
DD Alden engages DD Kisaragi at 8,000 yards
Range increases to 10,000 yards
CA Australia engages CL Yubari at 10,000 yards
CL Tatsuta engages CL Boise at 10,000 yards
CL Tenryu engages CA Australia at 10,000 yards
DD John D. Edwards engages DD Yunagi at 10,000 yards
DD Edsall engages DD Asanagi at 10,000 yards
DD Kisaragi engages DD Alden at 10,000 yards
DD Oite engages DD John D. Edwards at 10,000 yards
DD Mochizuki engages DD John D. Edwards at 10,000 yards
DD Yayoi engages DD John D. Edwards at 10,000 yards
DD John D. Edwards engages DD Kisaragi at 10,000 yards
DD Mutsuki engages DD John D. Edwards at 10,000 yards
CA Australia engages CL Yubari at 10,000 yards
CL Tatsuta engages CA Australia at 10,000 yards
DD Whipple engages CL Tenryu at 10,000 yards
DD Yunagi engages DD Edsall at 10,000 yards
DD Mochizuki engages DD Edsall at 10,000 yards
DD Alden engages DD Mochizuki at 10,000 yards
DD Edsall engages DD Oite at 10,000 yards
DD John D. Edwards engages DD Mochizuki at 10,000 yards
DD Kisaragi engages DD John D. Edwards at 10,000 yards
DD Mutsuki engages DD Alden at 10,000 yards
Range closes to 8,000 yards
CL Boise engages CL Tatsuta at 8,000 yards
DD Mutsuki engages DD Whipple at 8,000 yards
DD Yunagi engages DD John D. Edwards at 8,000 yards
DD Yunagi engages DD Edsall at 8,000 yards
DD Mutsuki engages DD Alden at 8,000 yards
DD Oite engages DD Whipple at 8,000 yards
DD Mochizuki engages DD Alden at 8,000 yards
DD Kisaragi engages DD Edsall at 8,000 yards
DD Edsall engages DD Mutsuki at 8,000 yards
Dechaineaux, E.F.V. orders Allied TF to disengage
Range closes to 7,000 yards
CA Australia engages CL Yubari at 7,000 yards
CL Boise engages CL Tatsuta at 7,000 yards
DD John D. Edwards engages DD Yayoi at 7,000 yards
DD Edsall engages DD Mutsuki at 7,000 yards
DD Alden engages DD Oite at 7,000 yards
DD Oite engages DD John D. Edwards at 7,000 yards
DD Whipple engages DD Mochizuki at 7,000 yards
DD John D. Edwards engages DD Yayoi at 7,000 yards
DD Kisaragi engages DD John D. Edwards at 7,000 yards
Task forces break off...


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TF 49 encounters mine field at Batavia (49,98)

Japanese Ships
CA Tone, Mine hits 1



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Night Naval bombardment of Batavia at 49,98

Allied aircraft
no flights

Allied aircraft losses
139WH-3: 54 damaged
139WH-3: 10 destroyed on ground
Blenheim IV: 12 damaged
Blenheim IV: 5 destroyed on ground
Buffalo I: 13 damaged
Buffalo I: 3 destroyed on ground
PBY-5 Catalina: 5 damaged
PBY-5 Catalina: 1 destroyed on ground
Blenheim I: 8 damaged
Blenheim I: 3 destroyed on ground
Hudson I: 6 damaged
Hudson I: 2 destroyed on ground
B-339D: 2 damaged
B-339D: 2 destroyed on ground

Japanese Ships
CA Chikuma
CA Tone
DD Shiranui
DD Isokaze
DD Kagero
DD Akigumo

Allied ground losses:
278 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
Non Combat: 1 destroyed, 47 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Guns lost 9 (2 destroyed, 7 disabled)

Airbase hits 17
Airbase supply hits 8
Runway hits 54

F1M2 Pete acting as spotter for CA Chikuma
CA Chikuma firing at Batavia
CA Tone firing at Batavia
DD Shiranui firing at Batavia
DD Isokaze firing at Batavia
DD Kagero firing at Batavia
DD Akigumo firing at Batavia


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Night Naval bombardment of Batavia at 49,98 - Coastal Guns Fire Back!

Allied aircraft
no flights

Allied aircraft losses
B-339D: 2 damaged
B-339D: 1 destroyed on ground
139WH-3: 26 damaged
139WH-3: 6 destroyed on ground
Buffalo I: 3 damaged
Buffalo I: 2 destroyed on ground
Blenheim I: 16 damaged
Blenheim I: 2 destroyed on ground
Blenheim IV: 5 damaged
Blenheim IV: 1 destroyed on ground
Hudson I: 2 damaged
Hudson I: 1 destroyed on ground
PBY-5 Catalina: 1 damaged
PBY-5 Catalina: 1 destroyed on ground

2 Coastal gun shots fired in defense.

Japanese Ships
CL Kiso
CL Tama
CL Kuma
CL Yura
CL Natori
CL Isuzu
CL Naka
DD Yugao
DD Hokaze
DD Yakaze
DD Okikaze
DD Hatakaze
DD Matsukaze
DD Ayanami
DD Shikinami
DD Uranami
DD Isonami
DD Nowaki
DD Amatsukaze
DD Maikaze

Allied Ships
AGP Wega, Shell hits 1, on fire
AVP Orion, Shell hits 1, on fire

Allied ground losses:
18 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 3 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Airbase hits 13
Airbase supply hits 6
Runway hits 41
Port hits 1

CL Kiso firing at Batavia Coastal Gun Battalion
Batavia Coastal Gun Battalion firing at CL Kiso
CL Tama firing at Batavia
CL Kuma firing at Batavia
CL Yura firing at Batavia
CL Natori firing at Batavia
Batavia Coastal Gun Battalion firing at CL Isuzu
CL Naka firing at Batavia
DD Yugao firing at Batavia
Batavia Coastal Gun Battalion firing at DD Hokaze
DD Hokaze firing at Batavia Coastal Gun Battalion
DD Yakaze firing at Batavia
DD Okikaze firing at Batavia
DD Hatakaze firing at Batavia
DD Matsukaze firing at Batavia
DD Ayanami firing at Batavia
DD Shikinami firing at Batavia Coastal Gun Battalion
Batavia Coastal Gun Battalion firing at DD Shikinami
DD Uranami firing at Batavia
DD Isonami firing at Batavia
DD Nowaki firing at Batavia
Batavia Coastal Gun Battalion firing at DD Amatsukaze
DD Amatsukaze firing at Batavia Coastal Gun Battalion
DD Maikaze firing at Batavia Coastal Gun Battalion
Batavia Coastal Gun Battalion firing at DD Maikaze


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Night Naval bombardment of Batavia at 49,98 - Coastal Guns Fire Back!

Japanese Ships
DD Yanagi
DD Karii
DD Susuki
DD Hishu
DD Tsuga

DD Yanagi firing at Batavia
DD Karii firing at Batavia Coastal Gun Battalion
Batavia Coastal Gun Battalion firing at DD Karii
DD Susuki firing at Batavia
DD Hishu firing at Batavia
DD Tsuga firing at Batavia


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Morning Air attack on Batavia , at 49,98

Weather in hex: Light rain

Raid spotted at 12 NM, estimated altitude 28,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 3 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 23

No Japanese losses

Aircraft Attacking:
23 x A6M2 Zero sweeping at 25000 feet



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Morning Air attack on Batavia , at 49,98

Weather in hex: Light rain

Raid spotted at 18 NM, estimated altitude 28,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 5 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 17

No Japanese losses

Aircraft Attacking:
17 x A6M2 Zero sweeping at 25000 feet



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Morning Air attack on Cagayan , at 79,89

Weather in hex: Light cloud

Raid spotted at 18 NM, estimated altitude 5,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 6 minutes

Japanese aircraft
G3M2 Nell x 20
G4M1 Betty x 17

Japanese aircraft losses
G4M1 Betty: 2 damaged

Airbase hits 14
Airbase supply hits 7
Runway hits 55

Aircraft Attacking:
20 x G3M2 Nell bombing from 3000 feet
Airfield Attack: 2 x 250 kg GP Bomb, 4 x 60 kg GP Bomb
11 x G4M1 Betty bombing from 3000 feet
Airfield Attack: 2 x 250 kg GP Bomb, 4 x 60 kg GP Bomb
4 x G4M1 Betty bombing from 3000 feet
Airfield Attack: 2 x 250 kg SAP Bomb, 4 x 60 kg GP Bomb
2 x G4M1 Betty bombing from 3000 feet
Airfield Attack: 2 x 250 kg GP Bomb, 4 x 60 kg GP Bomb



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Morning Air attack on Cagayan , at 79,89

Weather in hex: Light cloud

Raid spotted at 1 NM, estimated altitude 6,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 0 minutes

Japanese aircraft
G4M1 Betty x 9

Allied aircraft
no flights

No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
B-17D Fortress: 1 damaged

Airbase hits 2
Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 5

Aircraft Attacking:
9 x G4M1 Betty bombing from 3000 feet
Airfield Attack: 2 x 250 kg GP Bomb, 4 x 60 kg GP Bomb



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Morning Air attack on Manila Bay Defenses , at 78,77 (Bataan)

Weather in hex: Heavy cloud

Raid detected at 78 NM, estimated altitude 20,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 24 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-27b Nate x 59

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-27b Nate: 4 damaged

Aircraft Attacking:
11 x Ki-27b Nate bombing from 15000 feet
Ground Attack: 2 x 50 kg GP Bomb
2 x Ki-27b Nate bombing from 15000 feet
Ground Attack: 2 x 50 kg GP Bomb
6 x Ki-27b Nate bombing from 15000 feet
Ground Attack: 2 x 50 kg GP Bomb
40 x Ki-27b Nate bombing from 15000 feet
Ground Attack: 2 x 50 kg GP Bomb

Also attacking Subic Bay Defenses ...
Also attacking Manila Bay Defenses ...
Also attacking Subic Bay Defenses ...


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Morning Air attack on Manila Bay Defenses , at 78,77 (Bataan)

Weather in hex: Heavy cloud

Raid detected at 34 NM, estimated altitude 19,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 10 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-27b Nate x 9

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-27b Nate: 1 damaged

Aircraft Attacking:
9 x Ki-27b Nate bombing from 15000 feet
Ground Attack: 2 x 50 kg GP Bomb



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Morning Air attack on Batavia , at 49,98

Weather in hex: Light rain

Raid spotted at 12 NM, estimated altitude 30,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 3 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 2

No Japanese losses

Aircraft Attacking:
2 x A6M2 Zero sweeping at 25000 feet



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Morning Air attack on Batavia , at 49,98

Weather in hex: Light rain

Raid spotted at 18 NM, estimated altitude 27,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 5 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 11

No Japanese losses

Aircraft Attacking:
8 x A6M2 Zero sweeping at 25000 feet
3 x A6M2 Zero sweeping at 25000 feet



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Morning Air attack on Batavia , at 49,98

Weather in hex: Light rain

Raid spotted at 18 NM, estimated altitude 27,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 5 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 16

No Japanese losses

Aircraft Attacking:
8 x A6M2 Zero sweeping at 25000 feet
8 x A6M2 Zero sweeping at 25000 feet



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Morning Air attack on Batavia , at 49,98

Weather in hex: Light rain

Raid spotted at 20 NM, estimated altitude 12,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 7 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 36
B5N1 Kate x 28
B5N2 Kate x 42
D3A1 Val x 106

Japanese aircraft losses
B5N2 Kate: 4 damaged
D3A1 Val: 15 damaged
D3A1 Val: 2 destroyed by flak

Allied Ships
AMc Salak, Bomb hits 1, and is sunk
AMc Endeh, Bomb hits 1, and is sunk
AG Deneb, Bomb hits 2, and is sunk
AMc MMS B, Bomb hits 1, and is sunk
AGP Aldebaran, Bomb hits 1, and is sunk
AVP Orion, Bomb hits 2, and is sunk
AGP Wega, Bomb hits 2, and is sunk
AMc Digoel, Bomb hits 1, and is sunk
AMc Lawoe, Bomb hits 1, and is sunk
AVP Merel, Bomb hits 3, and is sunk
PC Tydeman, Bomb hits 4, and is sunk
AMc MMS A, Bomb hits 1, and is sunk
AMc MMS D, Bomb hits 1, and is sunk
AMc MMS C, Bomb hits 1, and is sunk
AMc Djampea, Bomb hits 1, and is sunk

Port hits 18
Port fuel hits 2
Port supply hits 1

Aircraft Attacking:
8 x D3A1 Val releasing from 1000'
Port Attack: 1 x 250 kg GP Bomb
9 x B5N1 Kate bombing from 10000 feet
Port Attack: 2 x 250 kg SAP Bomb
12 x D3A1 Val releasing from 2000'
Port Attack: 1 x 250 kg GP Bomb
9 x B5N1 Kate bombing from 10000 feet
Port Attack: 1 x 800 kg AP Bomb
6 x D3A1 Val releasing from 1000'
Port Attack: 1 x 250 kg GP Bomb
10 x B5N1 Kate bombing from 10000 feet
Port Attack: 1 x 800 kg AP Bomb
6 x D3A1 Val releasing from 2000'
Port Attack: 1 x 250 kg GP Bomb
25 x B5N2 Kate bombing from 10000 feet
Port Attack: 1 x 800 kg AP Bomb
2 x D3A1 Val releasing from 3000'
Port Attack: 1 x 250 kg GP Bomb
17 x B5N2 Kate bombing from 10000 feet
Port Attack: 1 x 800 kg AP Bomb
8 x D3A1 Val releasing from 3000'
Port Attack: 1 x 250 kg GP Bomb
10 x D3A1 Val releasing from 3000'
Port Attack: 1 x 250 kg GP Bomb
11 x D3A1 Val releasing from 1000'
Port Attack: 1 x 250 kg GP Bomb
17 x D3A1 Val releasing from 1000'
Port Attack: 1 x 250 kg GP Bomb
6 x D3A1 Val releasing from 1000'
Port Attack: 1 x 250 kg GP Bomb
8 x D3A1 Val releasing from 2000'
Port Attack: 1 x 250 kg GP Bomb
8 x D3A1 Val releasing from 2000'
Port Attack: 1 x 250 kg GP Bomb
4 x D3A1 Val releasing from 2000'
Port Attack: 1 x 250 kg GP Bomb

Massive explosion on AGP Aldebaran


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Morning Air attack on 85th Chinese Corps, at 86,47 , near Sinyang

Weather in hex: Thunderstorms

Raid spotted at 20 NM, estimated altitude 8,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 6 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-21-Ic Sally x 49
Ki-30 Ann x 8
Ki-48-Ib Lily x 25
Ki-51 Sonia x 6

No Japanese losses

Allied ground losses:
252 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 14 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 25 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled

Aircraft Attacking:
19 x Ki-21-Ic Sally bombing from 3000 feet
Ground Attack: 4 x 250 kg GP Bomb
8 x Ki-30 Ann bombing from 3000 feet
Ground Attack: 1 x 250 kg GP Bomb
9 x Ki-21-Ic Sally bombing from 3000 feet
Ground Attack: 4 x 250 kg GP Bomb
21 x Ki-21-Ic Sally bombing from 3000 feet
Ground Attack: 4 x 250 kg GP Bomb
25 x Ki-48-Ib Lily bombing from 3000 feet
Ground Attack: 4 x 100 kg GP Bomb
6 x Ki-51 Sonia bombing from 3000 feet
Ground Attack: 4 x 50 kg GP Bomb

Also attacking 29th Chinese Corps ...
Also attacking 85th Chinese Corps ...
Also attacking 29th Chinese Corps ...
Also attacking 85th Chinese Corps ...
Also attacking 29th Chinese Corps ...
Also attacking 85th Chinese Corps ...
Also attacking 29th Chinese Corps ...
Also attacking 85th Chinese Corps ...
Also attacking 29th Chinese Corps ...
Also attacking 85th Chinese Corps ...
Also attacking 29th Chinese Corps ...
Also attacking 85th Chinese Corps ...
Also attacking 29th Chinese Corps ...
Also attacking 85th Chinese Corps ...
Also attacking 29th Chinese Corps ...


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Morning Air attack on Subic Bay Defenses , at 78,77 (Bataan)

Weather in hex: Heavy cloud

Raid detected at 36 NM, estimated altitude 5,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 10 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-30 Ann x 53
Ki-32 Mary x 3
Ki-48-Ib Lily x 3

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-30 Ann: 4 damaged
Ki-30 Ann: 1 destroyed by flak
Ki-32 Mary: 1 damaged
Ki-48-Ib Lily: 1 damaged

Aircraft Attacking:
22 x Ki-30 Ann bombing from 3000 feet
Ground Attack: 1 x 250 kg GP Bomb
30 x Ki-30 Ann bombing from 3000 feet
Ground Attack: 1 x 250 kg GP Bomb
3 x Ki-48-Ib Lily bombing from 3000 feet *
Ground Attack: 2 x 100 kg GP Bomb
3 x Ki-32 Mary bombing from 3000 feet
Ground Attack: 1 x 250 kg GP Bomb

Also attacking Manila Bay Defenses ...
Also attacking 2nd PA Constabulary Division ...
Also attacking Subic Bay Defenses ...
Also attacking 31st Infantry Regiment ...
Also attacking Subic Bay Defenses ...
Also attacking Manila Bay Defenses ...
Also attacking Subic Bay Defenses ...
Also attacking Manila Bay Defenses ...
Also attacking 2nd PA Constabulary Division ...
Also attacking Manila Bay Defenses ...
Also attacking Subic Bay Defenses ...
Also attacking Manila Bay Defenses ...
Also attacking 2nd PA Constabulary Division ...
Also attacking Manila Bay Defenses ...


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Morning Air attack on 29th Chinese Corps, at 86,47 , near Sinyang

Weather in hex: Thunderstorms

Raid spotted at 18 NM, estimated altitude 3,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 6 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-32 Mary x 24

No Japanese losses

Allied ground losses:
23 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Aircraft Attacking:
24 x Ki-32 Mary bombing from 3000 feet
Ground Attack: 1 x 250 kg GP Bomb

Also attacking 85th Chinese Corps ...
Also attacking 29th Chinese Corps ...
Also attacking 85th Chinese Corps ...
Also attacking 29th Chinese Corps ...


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Morning Air attack on Singapore , at 50,84

Weather in hex: Thunderstorms

Raid detected at 38 NM, estimated altitude 15,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 10 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-30 Ann x 25

Allied aircraft
Buffalo I x 1

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-30 Ann: 9 damaged
Ki-30 Ann: 1 destroyed by flak

No Allied losses

Airbase hits 1

Aircraft Attacking:
24 x Ki-30 Ann bombing from 12000 feet
Airfield Attack: 1 x 250 kg GP Bomb

CAP engaged:
No.243 Sqn RAF Det with Buffalo I (1 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
1 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 10000 , scrambling fighters between 0 and 10000.
Raid is overhead



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Morning Air attack on 85th Chinese Corps, at 86,47 , near Sinyang

Weather in hex: Thunderstorms

Raid spotted at 15 NM, estimated altitude 8,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 5 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-21-Ic Sally x 13

No Japanese losses

Allied ground losses:
35 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 1 destroyed, 3 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Aircraft Attacking:
13 x Ki-21-Ic Sally bombing from 3000 feet
Ground Attack: 4 x 250 kg GP Bomb



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Morning Air attack on 2nd PA Constabulary Division, at 78,77 (Bataan)

Weather in hex: Heavy cloud

Raid detected at 60 NM, estimated altitude 8,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 17 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-21-IIa Sally x 11

No Japanese losses

Aircraft Attacking:
11 x Ki-21-IIa Sally bombing from 7000 feet *
Ground Attack: 2 x 250 kg GP Bomb

Also attacking Manila Bay Defenses ...
Also attacking 4th Marine Regiment ...
Also attacking 2nd PA Constabulary Division ...


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Morning Air attack on Manila Bay Defenses , at 78,77 (Bataan)

Weather in hex: Heavy cloud

Raid detected at 37 NM, estimated altitude 7,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 11 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-32 Mary x 9
Ki-48-Ib Lily x 8

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-48-Ib Lily: 2 damaged

Allied ground losses:
6 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Aircraft Attacking:
8 x Ki-48-Ib Lily bombing from 3000 feet *
Ground Attack: 2 x 100 kg GP Bomb
9 x Ki-32 Mary bombing from 3000 feet
Ground Attack: 1 x 250 kg GP Bomb

Also attacking Subic Bay Defenses ...
Also attacking Manila Bay Defenses ...
Also attacking Subic Bay Defenses ...


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Morning Air attack on Babeldaob , at 90,97

Weather in hex: Partial cloud

Raid spotted at 34 NM, estimated altitude 8,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 9 minutes

Allied aircraft
B-17D Fortress x 6

Allied aircraft losses
B-17D Fortress: 4 damaged

Port hits 1
Port supply hits 1

Aircraft Attacking:
3 x B-17D Fortress bombing from 5000 feet *
Port Attack: 4 x 500 lb GP Bomb
3 x B-17D Fortress bombing from 5000 feet *
Port Attack: 4 x 500 lb GP Bomb



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Morning Air attack on Batavia , at 49,98

Weather in hex: Light rain

Raid spotted at 36 NM, estimated altitude 29,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 11 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 16

No Japanese losses

Aircraft Attacking:
16 x A6M2 Zero sweeping at 25000 feet



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Afternoon Air attack on Batavia , at 49,98

Weather in hex: Clear sky

Raid spotted at 13 NM, estimated altitude 10,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 5 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 36
B5N2 Kate x 42

Japanese aircraft losses
B5N2 Kate: 4 damaged

Port hits 2
Port fuel hits 1

Aircraft Attacking:
17 x B5N2 Kate bombing from 10000 feet
Port Attack: 2 x 250 kg SAP Bomb
25 x B5N2 Kate bombing from 10000 feet
Port Attack: 1 x 800 kg AP Bomb



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Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Gasmata at 105,130

Weather in hex: Thunderstorms

Raid spotted at 6 NM, estimated altitude 8,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 1 minutes

Allied aircraft
Hudson I x 2

No Allied losses

Japanese Ships
CL Tatsuta

Aircraft Attacking:
2 x Hudson I bombing from 5000 feet *
Naval Attack: 2 x 250 lb SAP Bomb



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Ground combat at 86,47 (near Sinyang)

Japanese Shock attack

Attacking force 11390 troops, 102 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 373

Defending force 16638 troops, 76 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 530

Japanese adjusted assault: 257

Allied adjusted defense: 81

Japanese assault odds: 3 to 1

Combat modifiers
Defender: leaders(+), disruption(-), experience(-)
Attacker: shock(+), leaders(+), fatigue(-)

Japanese ground losses:
355 casualties reported
Squads: 1 destroyed, 54 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 4 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 8 disabled

Allied ground losses:
6986 casualties reported
Squads: 128 destroyed, 49 disabled
Non Combat: 206 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 10 destroyed, 12 disabled
Guns lost 16 (14 destroyed, 2 disabled)
Units retreated 2

Defeated Allied Units Retreating!

Assaulting units:
116th Division

Defending units:
29th Chinese Corps
85th Chinese Corps
31st Group Army


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Ground combat at Bataan (78,77)

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 2114 troops, 170 guns, 134 vehicles, Assault Value = 925

Defending force 20445 troops, 455 guns, 272 vehicles, Assault Value = 482

Japanese ground losses:
Vehicles lost 2 (2 destroyed, 0 disabled)

Allied ground losses:
132 casualties reported
Squads: 10 destroyed, 6 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 3 (1 destroyed, 2 disabled)

Assaulting units:
4th Tank Regiment
21st Division
65th Brigade
2nd Tank Regiment
48th Division
7th Tank Regiment
1st Medium Field Artillery Regiment
2nd Ind.Art.Mortar Battalion
8th Medium Field Artillery Regiment
9th Ind.Hvy.Art. Battalion
18th Medium Field Artillery Regiment
15th Ind.Art.Mortar Battalion
3rd Medium Field Artillery Regiment
3rd Ind. Mountain Gun Regiment

Defending units:
57th PS Infantry Regimental Combat Team
21st PA Infantry Division
4th Marine Regiment
91st PA Infantry Division
Manila Bay Defenses
45th PS Infantry Regimental Combat Team
31st Infantry Regiment
192nd Tank Battalion
26th PS Cavalry Regiment
194th Tank Battalion
31st PA Infantry Division
14th PS Engineer Regiment
2nd PA Constabulary Division
Clark Field USAAF Base Force
88th PS Field Artillery Regiment
Provisional GMC Grp
200th & 515th Coast AA Regiment
Bataan USN Base Force
803rd Engineer Aviation Battalion
201st PA Construction Battalion
Subic Bay Defenses
202nd PA Construction Battalion
I Philippine Corps
301st PA Field Artillery Regiment


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Ground combat at Puerto Princesa (73,83)

Japanese Shock attack

Attacking force 1478 troops, 18 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 61

Defending force 141 troops, 0 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 3

Japanese adjusted assault: 54

Allied adjusted defense: 1

Japanese assault odds: 54 to 1 (fort level 0)

Japanese forces CAPTURE Puerto Princesa !!!

Allied aircraft
no flights

Allied aircraft losses
OS2U-3 Kingfisher: 3 destroyed

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), leaders(-), morale(-), experience(-)
Attacker: shock(+), leaders(-)

Allied ground losses:
204 casualties reported
Squads: 2 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 14 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Units destroyed 1

Assaulting units:
Sasebo 1st SNLF

Defending units:
2nd PI Base Force


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Ground combat at Rabaul (106,125)

Allied Bombardment attack

Attacking force 1104 troops, 19 guns, 2 vehicles, Assault Value = 42

Defending force 3656 troops, 42 guns, 4 vehicles, Assault Value = 143

Assaulting units:
Lark Battalion
B Coy/NG Rifles
Rabaul Det. Base Force

Defending units:
2nd Indpt SNLF Coy
Maizuru 1st SNLF
Maizuru 2nd SNLF
51st Naval Guard Unit

 

Specificando.

Non e' che uno colpisce con una bomba l'Oi o il Kitakami e deve aspettarsi esplodano.

Il gioco credo che consideri tot item come "sensibili" e da' loro una probabilita' di far fare il botto alla nave. Ora, visto che i due CL hanno un fracco di long lance in coperta (40 ciascuno... 20 per lato), la probabilita' che esplodano e' rimarchevole.
Molte navi imperiali affondarono proprio per i long lance in coperta e credo diano una buona probabilita' di far esplodere la nave causa colpo critico. Se ne hai ben 40 sul ponte... Hai 40 lanci di dado al riguardo (per dire, non so come sia il codice esattamente) e quindi ci sta facciano kaboom.

Tant'e' che contro il danese il CL Oi mi esplose per una singola bomba da 500Kg sul ponte lanciata da un Banshee. Plausibilmente il tipo di lancio della bomba conta. Mi spiego: una bomba in LowN non credo faccia fare il botto con tanta probabilita' quanto una lanciata da un dive bomber, visto che la prima si schianta generalmente sulle fiancate ma la seconda invece colpisce la nave da sopra.
E' come con le CV, dove le bombe in LowN colpiscono i fianchi e fanno magari floating damage, ma non sfasciano il ponte, mentre i DB sfondano il ponte.


Come per ogni altra cosa, gli alleati possono tranquillmanete non curarsi della cosa visto che e' una delle infinite sequele di robe malfunzionanti per il solo lato imperiale (storicamente appropriato eh).

In compenso gli alleati soffrono tanto quanto gli imperiali di esplosioni dei depositi munizioni, cosa comunque relativamente utile.
Il fatto e' che:
A) le navi giapponesi sono notoriamente fatte di cartone e tutti bucano ogni cosa
B) i cannoni alleati avevano un RoF molto alto e credo questo sia modellato in qualche modo indiretto nel gioco. Il che implica che, posto tutti buchino tutto, i cannoni imperiali sparano meno e hanno meno possibilita' di fare un colpo critico ai depositi di munizioni nemici
C) un magazine explosion e' generalmente sufficiente a far affondare ogni nave, ma ci sta restino a galla: quelle alleate hanno controllo danni sufficiente e quelle imperiali no, quindi... L'abbiamo gia' capito.


@kaiser85 mi ha affondato il CA Kumano con un colpo da 15" al deposito munizioni da parte della POW. Un estratto del combat report:
Maximum visibility in Clear Conditions and 67% moonlight: 12,000 yards
Range closes to 15,000 yards...
CONTACT: Allies radar detects Japanese task force at 15,000 yards
Range closes to 9,000 yards...
CONTACT: Japanese lookouts spot Allied task force at 9,000 yards
CONTACT: Allied lookouts spot Japanese task force at 9,000 yards
Range closes to 3,000 yards
CA Kumano engages BB Prince of Wales at 3,000 yards
Magazine explodes on CA Kumano
CA Kumano sunk by BB Prince of Wales at 4,000 yards

Il buon Kumano si e' beccato un colpo in coperta che ha fatto pochi danni di sicuro e un secondo colpo, letale.
Nulla da fare per i poveretti a bordo, tutti morti.

In compenso, io ho steccato diverse navi alleate nello stesso modo. Specie i CL olandesi delle DEI sono proni a fare il botto (non mi domandate il perche') e le navi della RN (ari-non mi domandate il perche').
Le TF americane incentrate su CA/CL/DD sono al solito invulnerabili quindi c'e' poco da fare: ingaggio in notturna in superiorita' numerica e qualitativa una TF di incrociatori alleati con presumibilmente poche ammo e perdo il CL Yubari.
Non che serva ad un cazzo lo Yubari, e' una specie di grande DD fondamentalmente, ma tant'e'...

 

se il gioco tiene conto anche di questi dettagli, accidenti, stupisce sempre di più!

 

Tiene conto. Se me lo chiedi, l'idea che mi sono fatto è che il gioco "legga" i millemila siluri come depositi munizioni senza armatura. Il che implica che un critico e annessa esplosione e affondamento è molto più probabile.

Però oh nessuno, salvo Alfred, ha mai avuto accesso ai codici del gioco. Quindi non so dire di preciso.

 

Non potrebbe essere che nei test di sopravvivenza che nei giochi fisici si fanno con tabelle varie e tiri di dado certe navi abbiano maggiori penalizzazioni calcolate dal programma ?
Quando fai la battaglia dello stretto di Danimarca tanto per fare un esempio la Hood alla massima distanza se colpita ha moltissime possibilità di esplodere, come successe, mentre la PoW no

 

Non sono sicuro di aver capito quel che intendi.

Credo che il programma risolva in modo semplice ma elegante il problema dei long lance rendendoli come magazzini ammo con zero blindatura. Quindi, se te hai mettiamo il CA Tone con tot magazzini con tot protezione, non puoi ricevere colpi critici da mettiamo un cannone di un DD da 127mm. Pero' il buon Tone ha anche i cari vecchi long lance e quindi, sebbene protetto dal botto al magazzino, non lo e' da un colpo sui siluri.
A cio' aggiungi che credo conti moltissimo il tipo di attacco. Detto in soldoni, non credo che il gioco consideri la parabola dei colpi d'artiglieria navale tout court, ma credo ad una certa distanza (quanto? Boh) i colpi passano dall'arrivare sul top armor all'arrivare sul side armor. Mentre le bombe arrivano tutte sul top armor in caso di bombardamenti normali o dive bombing. Lo skip bombing le fa arrivare sulle fiancate.
E' uno dei motivi per cui lo skip bombing fa cacare contro navi serie tipo le BB: colpisce i fianchi. Invece e' letale contro i mercantili perche', non essendo protetti, sfonda le fiancate e crea falle giganti.
Ora, ci sta benissimo che i colpi sui fianchi non facciano fare il botto ai long lance e solo quelli "da sopra" li facciano esplodere, ma qui son dettagli di codice totalmente impossibili da capire e sapere.


Personalmente ho l'idea che qualunque cosa "da sopra" abbia possibilita' di far fare il botto ai long lance, probabilita' adjusted a seconda del numero di siluri in coperta. I colpi ai fianchi invece non fanno esplodere i suddetti siluri a quanto ne so.



Io uso estensivamente l'armamentario giappo per gli scontri notturni e devo dire che non mi e' mai saltata una nave a casaccio (un 120mm che buca la blindatura di un CA e fa saltare tutto quanto) ma mi son saltate per aria navi coi dive bombers e anche level bombers a causa di magazine explosions varie.
La mia deduzione e' che i long lance facciano fare il botto alle mie care navi quando qualcosa le becca "da sopra".

In generale il 90% degli scontri navali e' in notturna a brevi distanze e quindi le navi saltano per aria dato che chiunque buca la blindatura di chiunque, ma devo dire che non ho notato un delta negli affondamenti ricevuti a seconda dei long lance portati a bordo.
Con la roba che arriva "da sopra", invece, ho notato un delta gigantesco. Piu' siluri porta un DD o, in questo caso, un CL o un CA e piu' e' probabile che faccia la mega esplosione anche con una singola bomba ridicola.
In compenso, non me ne curo piu' di tanto visto che il rischio c'e' sempre e non e' che lo si puo' evitare.


Nello specifico del match ho sbagliato io riguardo a Oi e Kitakami perche' li ho tenuti in riserva nelle DEI per fronteggiare la Force Z, Force Z che pero' ho affondato al turno 3 e quindi non erano piu' necessari da mo' e avrei dovuto ridispiegarli nel Pacifico dove gironzolano i soliti incrociatori alleati.
Non li ho esposti nelle DEI anche appunto per evitare il classico bomber olandese che piazza una bomba ogni morte di papa ma la va proprio a piazzare sui long lance e fa far loro il botto. Dato che non ho una copertura aerea decorosa nel settore e non mi curo di averla, ho preferito evitare rischi, aspettando a dispiegarli vicino al fronte.
Oi e Kitakami tirano una bordata da 40 long lance e possono virare tirandone altri 40. Ad una tipica distanza di ingaggio notturno di 4,000yards non e' il massimo per chi e' dall'altro lato ricevere 80 long lance sul groppone. Specie se ci sono bersagli grossi e poco manovrieri come POW e Reuplse.

Il mio impiego preferito di Oi e Kitakami e' in notturna contro le povere TF Bomb alleate, specie se ci sono le vecchie BB di PH che sono grosse e lente e affondano facilissimamente. I DD e soci le incendiano a cannonate e Oi e Kitakami tirano millemila siluri. Se ho la sorpresa iniziale, poi, gli amiconi di la' non ci possono fare proprio un cazzo e vengono massacrati.
Il dramma e' semmai che sia Oi che Kitakami sono fragilini ed hanno un upgrade nel '42 che toglie loro i siluri quindi se vuoi tenerli coi siluri li devi far arrivare fino a fine guerra senza radar e con pochissima AA dato che non puoi far far loro upgrade.
A me piace la coppia Oi/Kitakami (CL) + Fubuki (DD). I Fubuki sono spendibili e quindi vale la pena usarli in modo decisamente rischioso per far incendiare le navi nemiche in notturna e per consentire ai due CL di avere il tiro dei long lance sulle navi nemiche.
Una validissima alternativa e' usare una classe qualunque di DD moderni imperiali che portano 8 long lance e tirare una serie di mega-salve contro il nemico cosi da affondare ogni cosa. Il limite qui e' che i DD moderni sono pochi e richiestissimi da altre TF importanti (CA e CV).

Considera infine che io gioco in modo particolare. La mia guerra navale e' incentrata su CA e CV. Le BB le uso ogni turno, ma in bombardamento. Non scorto nemmeno la KB con TF serie di superficie nel 99% dei casi, solo in previsione di scontri aeronavali (per via della AA, della posibilita' di dover proteggere la TF al day-2 o per la possibile necessita' di 'finire' naviglio nemico al day-2).
Inoltre le mie TF sono tendenzialmente aggiustate per classi di navi, anche se inizialmente e' dura. Io non mescolo MAI MAI MAI MAI MAI CL/CA/BB se non per i bombardamenti e tengo le classi il piu' possibile unite (p.ex. i Tone-Class assieme, i Fubuki assieme etcetc).

Raramente ho perso scontri navali importanti, mi viene giusto in mente una battaglia a Socotra a meta' '43 contro Stefano dove ci rimisi la Hiei (credo), divorata dalle fiamme causate dai 155mm dei CL alleati e degli ingestibili Fletcher.

 

Oi e Kitakami le aggiornai...grosso errore a parer mio. Tanto ASW e AA jappo nel late game sulle navi sono inutili, meglio giocarsi i 40 siluri in uno scontro one shot. Ergo: NO upgrade.

Tenere naviglio riunito per tipo/classe è la via. Stesso range di ingaggio stessa velocità stesaa endurance.

 

Anche io le aggiornai contro Stefano e me ne pentii.

Sei te lo specialista upgrade vari delle navi imperiali, ma concordo in toto. La ASW la fai coi millemila FP e con le E buone (alcune hanno le DC scarse ma io accelero sempre quelle con le DC violente).
Sulla AA giappo stendiamo un velo pietoso che è meglio. Totalmente inutile. Così inutile che io non faccio upgrade=on alle poche LCU che hanno 2x40mm all'inizio e poi convertono alle 25mm. Ci sono un paio di BF, IJAAF bn e mi pare lo Shangai SNLF in Cina che partono con le 2x40mm.

Quando gli alleati si lamentano mi vien da ridere io che son qui a contare i fake-bofors (son 40mm ma non sono i bofors veri, son tipo copie cinesi) sulle punta delle dita.


In compenso sono un grande specialista delle conversioni navali più losche.

La conversione più losca di tutte sono le BB-CV che feci e amai alla follia. Non perché fossero efficaci, ma proprio per l'assenza di logica e utilità di tale lunghissima conversione.
Magnifica. Veramente un peccato ora sia @blizzard a goderne i frutti.

Anche i 6 CL Nagara che cerco di disbandare subito a Hiroshima in attesa del 01 Gennaio 1944 sono rimarchevoli. Diventano CLAA... Sì sì....


No parliamone.

E non parliamo dell'upgrade delle CV quando montano i razzi... Uno degli upgrade più dubbi disponibili, forse il più dubbio di tutti.

Te che esperienze hai avuto in materia? Cioè: ha fatto meno o più ridere avere i razzi a bordo (escludo una qualunque utilità di essi)?

Anni che lo dico.

Anni che i miei alleati fanno diversamente.

Anni che affondo loro tutto.

BANZAI!



Io guardo sopratutto all'endurance dei DD per le CV visto che uso estensivamente il full speed. Per il resto: CA+DD con tanti siluri e BB con quel che avanza (fanno solo bombardamento da me).
Guardo poco punto i valori bruti di AA o simili tanto non conta nulla. C'è da guardare i device montati e possibilmente anche dove.

 

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AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR Jan 03, 42
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ASW attack near Izu Oshima at 113,62

Japanese Ships
AKE Dakar Maru
AKE Taketoyo Maru
PB Yamahagi Maru #3

Allied Ships
SS Cuttlefish

SS Cuttlefish is sighted by escort
PB Yamahagi Maru #3 fails to find sub, continues to search...
PB Yamahagi Maru #3 fails to find sub, continues to search...
PB Yamahagi Maru #3 fails to find sub, continues to search...
PB Yamahagi Maru #3 fails to find sub, continues to search...
PB Yamahagi Maru #3 fails to find sub, continues to search...
Escort abandons search for sub


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ASW attack near Hachinohe at 120,58

Japanese Ships
xAKL Tatsumi Maru
xAKL Isshin Maru
PB Fumi Maru

Allied Ships
SS Tautog

SS Tautog is sighted by escort
PB Fumi Maru fails to find sub, continues to search...
PB Fumi Maru attacking submerged sub ....
PB Fumi Maru fails to find sub, continues to search...
PB Fumi Maru fails to find sub, continues to search...
PB Fumi Maru fails to find sub, continues to search...
Escort abandons search for sub


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TF 37 encounters mine field at Bataan (78,77)

Japanese Ships
DD Nenohi, Mine hits 1, on fire
DD Harusame, Mine hits 1, heavy damage



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TF 44 encounters mine field at Bataan (78,77)

Japanese Ships
CA Mogami, Mine hits 1
CA Aoba, Mine hits 1
DD Hakaze, Mine hits 1



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Night Naval bombardment of Bataan at 78,77 - Coastal Guns Fire Back!

12 Coastal gun shots fired in defense.

Japanese Ships
BB Kirishima, Shell hits 1
BB Hiei
BB Haruna
BB Kongo
DD Natsugumo
DD Michishio
DD Oshio
DD Arashi
DD Hayashio

Allied ground losses:
38 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 7 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Airbase hits 1
Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 8
Port hits 2

Manila Bay Defenses firing at BB Kirishima
BB Kirishima firing at Manila Bay Defenses
BB Hiei firing at Manila Bay Defenses
Manila Bay Defenses firing at BB Hiei
E8N2 Dave acting as spotter for BB Haruna
BB Haruna firing at Manila Bay Defenses
BB Kongo firing at Manila Bay Defenses
DD Natsugumo firing at Manila Bay Defenses
Manila Bay Defenses firing at DD Natsugumo
DD Michishio firing at Manila Bay Defenses
Manila Bay Defenses firing at DD Michishio
DD Oshio firing at Manila Bay Defenses
Manila Bay Defenses firing at DD Oshio
DD Arashi firing at Manila Bay Defenses
DD Hayashio firing at Bataan


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Night Naval bombardment of Bataan at 78,77 - Coastal Guns Fire Back!

Allied aircraft
no flights

Allied aircraft losses
PBY-4 Catalina: 2 damaged

5 Coastal gun shots fired in defense.

Japanese Ships
BB Hyuga
BB Ise
BB Yamashiro
BB Fuso
BB Mutsu
BB Nagato
DD Hatsushima
DD Samidare
DD Yudachi
DD Asagumo
DD Natsushio

Allied ground losses:
399 casualties reported
Squads: 1 destroyed, 5 disabled
Non Combat: 26 destroyed, 37 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 4 disabled
Guns lost 10 (5 destroyed, 5 disabled)
Vehicles lost 12 (8 destroyed, 4 disabled)

Airbase hits 7
Airbase supply hits 3
Runway hits 27
Port hits 4
Port fuel hits 2
Port supply hits 5

BB Hyuga firing at 2nd PA Constabulary Division
BB Ise firing at Manila Bay Defenses
Manila Bay Defenses firing at BB Ise
E8N2 Dave acting as spotter for BB Yamashiro
BB Yamashiro firing at Bataan
BB Fuso firing at Bataan
BB Mutsu firing at Manila Bay Defenses
Manila Bay Defenses firing at BB Mutsu
BB Nagato firing at Manila Bay Defenses
Manila Bay Defenses firing at BB Nagato
DD Hatsushima firing at Bataan
DD Samidare firing at Manila Bay Defenses
Manila Bay Defenses firing at DD Samidare
DD Yudachi firing at Manila Bay Defenses
DD Asagumo firing at Manila Bay Defenses
DD Natsushio firing at Manila Bay Defenses


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Night Naval bombardment of Bataan at 78,77 - Coastal Guns Fire Back!

13 Coastal gun shots fired in defense.

Japanese Ships
CA Kako
CA Furutaka
CA Kinugasa
CA Aoba
CA Mikuma
CA Ashigara
CA Haguro
CA Myoko
CA Chokai
CA Maya
DD Kiku
DD Kuri
DD Sawakaze
DD Harukaze
DD Kamikaze
DD Yuzuki
DD Nagatsuki
DD Kikuzuki
DD Fumizuki
DD Minazuki
DD Satsuki
DD Uzuki
DD Oboro

Manila Bay Defenses firing at CA Kako
CA Kako firing at Manila Bay Defenses
CA Furutaka firing at Manila Bay Defenses
Manila Bay Defenses firing at CA Furutaka
CA Kinugasa firing at Manila Bay Defenses
Manila Bay Defenses firing at CA Kinugasa
CA Aoba firing at Manila Bay Defenses
CA Mikuma firing at Manila Bay Defenses
Manila Bay Defenses firing at CA Mikuma
CA Ashigara firing at Manila Bay Defenses
CA Haguro firing at Manila Bay Defenses
CA Myoko firing at Manila Bay Defenses
CA Chokai firing at Manila Bay Defenses
CA Maya firing at Manila Bay Defenses
DD Kiku firing at Manila Bay Defenses
DD Kuri firing at Manila Bay Defenses
DD Sawakaze firing at Bataan
DD Harukaze firing at Manila Bay Defenses
DD Kamikaze firing at Manila Bay Defenses
DD Yuzuki firing at Manila Bay Defenses
DD Nagatsuki firing at Manila Bay Defenses
DD Kikuzuki firing at Manila Bay Defenses
DD Fumizuki firing at Manila Bay Defenses
DD Minazuki firing at Bataan
DD Satsuki firing at Bataan
DD Uzuki firing at Manila Bay Defenses
DD Oboro firing at Manila Bay Defenses


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Pre-Invasion action off Rabaul (106,125)
Defensive Guns engage approaching landing force

13 Coastal gun shots fired in defense.

Japanese Ships
PB Kaikei Maru
PB Hakkaisan Maru
PB Fukui Maru

PB Kaikei Maru fired at enemy troops
PB Hakkaisan Maru fired at enemy troops
PB Fukui Maru fired at enemy troops


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Amphibious Assault at Rabaul (106,125)

TF 8 troops unloading over beach at Rabaul, 106,125



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Amphibious Assault at Kota Bharu (51,75)

TF 144 troops unloading over beach at Kota Bharu, 51,75



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Invasion Support action off Rabaul (106,125)
Defensive Guns engage approaching landing force

11 Coastal gun shots fired in defense.

Japanese Ships
PB Kaikei Maru
PB Hakkaisan Maru
PB Fukui Maru

PB Kaikei Maru fired at enemy troops
PB Hakkaisan Maru fired at enemy troops
PB Fukui Maru fired at enemy troops


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Morning Air attack on 2nd PA Constabulary Division, at 78,77 (Bataan)

Weather in hex: Light rain

Raid detected at 39 NM, estimated altitude 7,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 15 minutes

Japanese aircraft
G3M2 Nell x 24
G4M1 Betty x 6

No Japanese losses

Allied ground losses:
6 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Aircraft Attacking:
24 x G3M2 Nell bombing from 7000 feet
Ground Attack: 2 x 250 kg GP Bomb, 4 x 60 kg GP Bomb
3 x G4M1 Betty bombing from 7000 feet
Ground Attack: 2 x 250 kg GP Bomb, 4 x 60 kg GP Bomb
3 x G4M1 Betty bombing from 7000 feet
Ground Attack: 2 x 250 kg GP Bomb, 4 x 60 kg GP Bomb

Also attacking 192nd Tank Battalion ...
Also attacking 4th Marine Regiment ...
Also attacking 194th Tank Battalion ...
Also attacking 2nd PA Constabulary Division ...
Also attacking 192nd Tank Battalion ...
Also attacking 2nd PA Constabulary Division ...


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Morning Air attack on 4th Marine Regiment, at 78,77 (Bataan)

Weather in hex: Light rain

Raid detected at 57 NM, estimated altitude 9,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 19 minutes

Japanese aircraft
G4M1 Betty x 9

No Japanese losses

Aircraft Attacking:
9 x G4M1 Betty bombing from 7000 feet
Ground Attack: 2 x 250 kg GP Bomb, 4 x 60 kg GP Bomb



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Morning Air attack on 45th PS Infantry Regimental Combat Team, at 78,77 (Bataan)

Weather in hex: Light rain

Raid detected at 73 NM, estimated altitude 19,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 23 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-27b Nate x 11

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-27b Nate: 2 damaged

Aircraft Attacking:
11 x Ki-27b Nate bombing from 15000 feet
Ground Attack: 2 x 50 kg GP Bomb

Also attacking Manila Bay Defenses ...
Also attacking 45th PS Infantry Regimental Combat Team ...


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Morning Air attack on 45th PS Infantry Regimental Combat Team, at 78,77 (Bataan)

Weather in hex: Light rain

Raid detected at 58 NM, estimated altitude 16,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 18 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-27b Nate x 17

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-27b Nate: 1 damaged

Aircraft Attacking:
11 x Ki-27b Nate bombing from 15000 feet
Ground Attack: 2 x 50 kg GP Bomb
6 x Ki-27b Nate bombing from 15000 feet
Ground Attack: 2 x 50 kg GP Bomb

Also attacking 31st PA Infantry Division ...
Also attacking 45th PS Infantry Regimental Combat Team ...
Also attacking 31st PA Infantry Division ...


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Morning Air attack on Manila Bay Defenses , at 78,77 (Bataan)

Weather in hex: Light rain

Raid detected at 79 NM, estimated altitude 8,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 27 minutes

Japanese aircraft
G4M1 Betty x 12

No Japanese losses

Aircraft Attacking:
12 x G4M1 Betty bombing from 7000 feet
Ground Attack: 2 x 250 kg GP Bomb, 4 x 60 kg GP Bomb



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Morning Air attack on 30th Chinese Corps, at 86,48 (Sinyang)

Weather in hex: Heavy cloud

Raid spotted at 19 NM, estimated altitude 5,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 6 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-21-Ic Sally x 34
Ki-30 Ann x 8
Ki-48-Ib Lily x 10
Ki-51 Sonia x 6

No Japanese losses

Allied ground losses:
188 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 7 disabled
Non Combat: 1 destroyed, 19 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Aircraft Attacking:
22 x Ki-21-Ic Sally bombing from 3000 feet
Ground Attack: 4 x 250 kg GP Bomb
8 x Ki-30 Ann bombing from 3000 feet
Ground Attack: 1 x 250 kg GP Bomb
9 x Ki-21-Ic Sally bombing from 3000 feet
Ground Attack: 4 x 250 kg GP Bomb
10 x Ki-48-Ib Lily bombing from 3000 feet
Ground Attack: 4 x 100 kg GP Bomb
6 x Ki-51 Sonia bombing from 3000 feet
Ground Attack: 4 x 50 kg GP Bomb
3 x Ki-21-Ic Sally bombing from 3000 feet
Ground Attack: 4 x 250 kg GP Bomb

Also attacking 3rd Group Army ...
Also attacking 30th Chinese Corps ...
Also attacking 3rd Group Army ...
Also attacking 30th Chinese Corps ...
Also attacking 3rd Group Army ...
Also attacking 30th Chinese Corps ...
Also attacking 3rd Group Army ...
Also attacking 30th Chinese Corps ...


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Morning Air attack on 31st Infantry Regiment, at 78,77 (Bataan)

Weather in hex: Light rain

Raid detected at 38 NM, estimated altitude 6,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 10 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-30 Ann x 25
Ki-32 Mary x 3
Ki-48-Ib Lily x 2

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-30 Ann: 5 damaged

Allied ground losses:
14 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Aircraft Attacking:
22 x Ki-30 Ann bombing from 3000 feet
Ground Attack: 1 x 250 kg GP Bomb
2 x Ki-48-Ib Lily bombing from 3000 feet *
Ground Attack: 2 x 100 kg GP Bomb
3 x Ki-32 Mary bombing from 3000 feet
Ground Attack: 1 x 250 kg GP Bomb
3 x Ki-30 Ann bombing from 3000 feet
Ground Attack: 1 x 250 kg GP Bomb

Also attacking 2nd PA Constabulary Division ...
Also attacking 26th PS Cavalry Regiment ...
Also attacking 88th PS Field Artillery Regiment ...
Also attacking Manila Bay Defenses ...
Also attacking 31st Infantry Regiment ...
Also attacking 88th PS Field Artillery Regiment ...
Also attacking 31st Infantry Regiment ...


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Morning Air attack on 31st Infantry Regiment, at 78,77 (Bataan)

Weather in hex: Light rain

Raid detected at 90 NM, estimated altitude 20,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 28 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-27b Nate x 40

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-27b Nate: 1 damaged

Aircraft Attacking:
40 x Ki-27b Nate bombing from 15000 feet
Ground Attack: 2 x 50 kg GP Bomb

Also attacking 91st PA Infantry Division ...
Also attacking 31st Infantry Regiment ...
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INIZIO BROCHURE ARMI IMPERIALI

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TYPE 03 - IJAAF - AIR BOMBING DEVICE (AIR DROPPED, FREE-FALL)​

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Morning Air attack on 91st PA Infantry Division, at 78,77 (Bataan)

Weather in hex: Light rain

Raid detected at 29 NM, estimated altitude 3,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 8 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-30 Ann x 26

No Japanese losses

Allied ground losses:
6 casualties reported
Squads: 1 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Aircraft Attacking:
26 x Ki-30 Ann bombing from 3000 feet
Ground Attack: 1 x 250 kg GP Bomb

Also attacking 57th PS Infantry Regimental Combat Team ...
Also attacking 91st PA Infantry Division ...
Also attacking 57th PS Infantry Regimental Combat Team ...
Also attacking 91st PA Infantry Division ...


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Morning Air attack on 12th Chinese Corps, at 86,48 (Sinyang)

Weather in hex: Heavy cloud

Raid spotted at 17 NM, estimated altitude 6,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 6 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-21-Ic Sally x 14
Ki-32 Mary x 21

No Japanese losses

Allied ground losses:
56 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 6 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled

Aircraft Attacking:
21 x Ki-32 Mary bombing from 3000 feet
Ground Attack: 1 x 250 kg GP Bomb
14 x Ki-21-Ic Sally bombing from 3000 feet
Ground Attack: 4 x 250 kg GP Bomb

Also attacking 30th Chinese Corps ...
Also attacking 12th Chinese Corps ...
Also attacking 30th Chinese Corps ...
Also attacking 12th Chinese Corps ...


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Morning Air attack on Rangoon , at 54,53

Weather in hex: Partial cloud

Raid spotted at 13 NM, estimated altitude 38,500 feet.
Estimated time to target is 3 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-44 Tojo x 8

No Japanese losses

Aircraft Attacking:
8 x Ki-44 Tojo sweeping at 35500 feet



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Morning Air attack on 30th Chinese Corps, at 86,48 (Sinyang)

Weather in hex: Heavy cloud

Raid spotted at 19 NM, estimated altitude 9,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 6 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-21-Ic Sally x 19
Ki-48-Ib Lily x 15

No Japanese losses

Allied ground losses:
56 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 6 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Aircraft Attacking:
19 x Ki-21-Ic Sally bombing from 3000 feet
Ground Attack: 4 x 250 kg GP Bomb
15 x Ki-48-Ib Lily bombing from 3000 feet
Ground Attack: 4 x 100 kg GP Bomb



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Morning Air attack on 57th PS Infantry Regimental Combat Team, at 78,77 (Bataan)

Weather in hex: Light rain

Raid detected at 52 NM, estimated altitude 10,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 15 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-21-IIa Sally x 11

No Japanese losses

Allied ground losses:
21 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Aircraft Attacking:
11 x Ki-21-IIa Sally bombing from 7000 feet *
Ground Attack: 2 x 250 kg GP Bomb

Also attacking 21st PA Infantry Division ...
Also attacking 31st Infantry Regiment ...
Also attacking 57th PS Infantry Regimental Combat Team ...


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Morning Air attack on 21st PA Infantry Division, at 78,77 (Bataan)

Weather in hex: Light rain

Raid detected at 26 NM, estimated altitude 8,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 8 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-48-Ib Lily x 6

No Japanese losses

Aircraft Attacking:
6 x Ki-48-Ib Lily bombing from 3000 feet *
Ground Attack: 2 x 100 kg GP Bomb



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Morning Air attack on 3rd Group Army, at 86,48 (Sinyang)

Weather in hex: Heavy cloud

Raid spotted at 11 NM, estimated altitude 6,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 3 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-51 Sonia x 6

No Japanese losses

Aircraft Attacking:
6 x Ki-51 Sonia bombing from 3000 feet
Ground Attack: 4 x 50 kg GP Bomb



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Morning Air attack on 2nd PA Constabulary Division, at 78,77 (Bataan)

Weather in hex: Light rain

Raid detected at 27 NM, estimated altitude 8,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 10 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-32 Mary x 9

No Japanese losses

Aircraft Attacking:
9 x Ki-32 Mary bombing from 3000 feet
Ground Attack: 1 x 250 kg GP Bomb



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Afternoon Air attack on Batavia , at 49,98

Weather in hex: Overcast

Raid spotted at 47 NM, estimated altitude 29,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 15 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 18

No Japanese losses

Aircraft Attacking:
18 x A6M2 Zero sweeping at 25000 feet



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Afternoon Air attack on Batavia , at 49,98

Weather in hex: Overcast

Raid spotted at 20 NM, estimated altitude 19,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 8 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 36
B5N1 Kate x 31
B5N2 Kate x 63
D3A1 Val x 75

Allied aircraft
no flights

Japanese aircraft losses
B5N1 Kate: 1 damaged
B5N2 Kate: 4 damaged
D3A1 Val: 4 damaged

Allied aircraft losses
139WH-3: 21 damaged
139WH-3: 7 destroyed on ground
B-339D: 6 damaged
Hudson I: 9 damaged
Hudson I: 2 destroyed on ground
Blenheim I: 2 damaged
Blenheim I: 1 destroyed on ground
Blenheim IV: 4 damaged
Buffalo I: 12 damaged
Buffalo I: 1 destroyed on ground

Allied ground losses:
5 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Airbase hits 4
Airbase supply hits 2
Runway hits 23

Aircraft Attacking:
10 x B5N1 Kate bombing from 16000 feet
Airfield Attack: 2 x 250 kg GP Bomb
10 x B5N1 Kate bombing from 16000 feet
Airfield Attack: 2 x 250 kg GP Bomb
11 x B5N1 Kate bombing from 16000 feet
Airfield Attack: 2 x 250 kg GP Bomb
13 x D3A1 Val bombing from 16000 feet
Airfield Attack: 1 x 250 kg GP Bomb
27 x B5N2 Kate bombing from 16000 feet
Airfield Attack: 2 x 250 kg GP Bomb
18 x D3A1 Val bombing from 16000 feet
Airfield Attack: 1 x 250 kg GP Bomb
18 x B5N2 Kate bombing from 16000 feet
Airfield Attack: 2 x 250 kg GP Bomb
18 x D3A1 Val bombing from 16000 feet
Airfield Attack: 1 x 250 kg GP Bomb
18 x B5N2 Kate bombing from 16000 feet
Airfield Attack: 2 x 250 kg GP Bomb
26 x D3A1 Val bombing from 16000 feet
Airfield Attack: 1 x 250 kg GP Bomb
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INIZIO NUOVA ENTUSIASMANTE RUBRICA

Anticipazione (Spoiler)

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Afternoon Air attack on Kuching , at 58,88

Weather in hex: Light rain

Raid spotted at 19 NM, estimated altitude 7,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 6 minutes

Japanese aircraft
G4M1 Betty x 15

Allied aircraft
no flights

No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
Vildebeest III: 1 damaged
Vildebeest III: 2 destroyed on ground

Airbase hits 7
Airbase supply hits 2
Runway hits 29

Aircraft Attacking:
15 x G4M1 Betty bombing from 3000 feet
Airfield Attack: 2 x 250 kg GP Bomb, 4 x 60 kg GP Bomb



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Afternoon Air attack on Kuching , at 58,88

Weather in hex: Light rain

Raid spotted at 10 NM, estimated altitude 4,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 3 minutes

Japanese aircraft
G3M2 Nell x 14

Allied aircraft
no flights

Japanese aircraft losses
G3M2 Nell: 5 damaged

Allied aircraft losses
Vildebeest III: 1 damaged
Vildebeest III: 1 destroyed on ground

Airbase hits 4
Runway hits 4

Aircraft Attacking:
14 x G3M2 Nell bombing from 3000 feet *
Airfield Attack: 2 x 250 kg GP Bomb



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Afternoon Air attack on Kuching , at 58,88

Weather in hex: Light rain

Raid spotted at 3 NM, estimated altitude 8,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 0 minutes

Japanese aircraft
G4M1 Betty x 16

Allied aircraft
no flights

Japanese aircraft losses
G4M1 Betty: 1 damaged

Allied aircraft losses
Vildebeest III: 3 damaged
Vildebeest III: 1 destroyed on ground

Airbase hits 2
Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 12

Aircraft Attacking:
16 x G4M1 Betty bombing from 3000 feet
Airfield Attack: 2 x 250 kg GP Bomb, 4 x 60 kg GP Bomb



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Invasion Support action off Rabaul (106,125)
Defensive Guns engage approaching landing force

5 Coastal gun shots fired in defense.

Japanese Ships
PB Kaikei Maru
PB Hakkaisan Maru
PB Fukui Maru

PB Kaikei Maru fired at enemy troops
PB Hakkaisan Maru fired at enemy troops
PB Fukui Maru fired at enemy troops


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Ground combat at 86,47 (near Sinyang)

Japanese Shock attack

Attacking force 10882 troops, 102 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 318

Defending force 900 troops, 0 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 1

Japanese adjusted assault: 240

Allied adjusted defense: 5

Japanese assault odds: 48 to 1

Combat modifiers
Defender: leaders(+), experience(-), supply(-)
Attacker: shock(+), leaders(+), fatigue(-)

Allied ground losses:
274 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 22 destroyed, 41 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Assaulting units:
116th Division

Defending units:
31st Group Army

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INIZIO PUBBLICITA'

Anticipazione (Spoiler): PUBBLICITA'

TYPE 03 CHICK SELF-PROPELLED​

FINE PUBBLICITA'
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Ground combat at Bataan (78,77)

Japanese Shock attack

Attacking force 33144 troops, 445 guns, 429 vehicles, Assault Value = 961

Defending force 19886 troops, 447 guns, 265 vehicles, Assault Value = 461

Japanese adjusted assault: 665

Allied adjusted defense: 255

Japanese assault odds: 2 to 1 (fort level 1)

Japanese Assault reduces fortifications to 0

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), leaders(-), disruption(-), fatigue(-)
experience(-), supply(-)
Attacker: shock(+)

Japanese ground losses:
960 casualties reported
Squads: 4 destroyed, 50 disabled
Non Combat: 10 destroyed, 22 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 5 disabled
Vehicles lost 84 (50 destroyed, 34 disabled)

Allied ground losses:
994 casualties reported
Squads: 78 destroyed, 38 disabled
Non Combat: 8 destroyed, 37 disabled
Engineers: 5 destroyed, 11 disabled
Guns lost 35 (16 destroyed, 19 disabled)
Vehicles lost 21 (9 destroyed, 12 disabled)
Units destroyed 1

Assaulting units:
2nd Tank Regiment
21st Division
4th Tank Regiment
65th Brigade
48th Division
7th Tank Regiment
8th Medium Field Artillery Regiment
15th Ind.Art.Mortar Battalion
9th Ind.Hvy.Art. Battalion
18th Medium Field Artillery Regiment
2nd Ind.Art.Mortar Battalion
1st Medium Field Artillery Regiment
3rd Medium Field Artillery Regiment
3rd Ind. Mountain Gun Regiment

Defending units:
57th PS Infantry Regimental Combat Team
Manila Bay Defenses
194th Tank Battalion
14th PS Engineer Regiment
31st PA Infantry Division
45th PS Infantry Regimental Combat Team
91st PA Infantry Division
4th Marine Regiment
192nd Tank Battalion
21st PA Infantry Division
31st Infantry Regiment
26th PS Cavalry Regiment
2nd PA Constabulary Division
Subic Bay Defenses
I Philippine Corps
201st PA Construction Battalion
Bataan USN Base Force
803rd Engineer Aviation Battalion
Provisional GMC Grp
202nd PA Construction Battalion
88th PS Field Artillery Regiment
200th & 515th Coast AA Regiment
Clark Field USAAF Base Force
301st PA Field Artillery Regiment
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INIZIO PUBBLCITA' ULTERIORE

Anticipazione (Spoiler): PUBBLICITA' ULTERIORE

TYPE 03B - JAPANESE CHICK - SLUTTIER THAN THE ONE BEFORE MODEL
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FINE PUBBLICITA' ULTERIORE
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Ground combat at Tulagi (114,137)

Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 402 troops, 3 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 16

Defending force 0 troops, 0 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 0

Japanese adjusted assault: 17

Allied adjusted defense: 1

Japanese assault odds: 17 to 1 (fort level 0)

Japanese forces CAPTURE Tulagi !!!

Combat modifiers
Attacker:

Assaulting units:
II/66th Naval Guard Unit


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Ground combat at Rabaul (106,125)

Allied Bombardment attack

Attacking force 1109 troops, 19 guns, 2 vehicles, Assault Value = 44

Defending force 3685 troops, 42 guns, 4 vehicles, Assault Value = 147

Assaulting units:
Lark Battalion
B Coy/NG Rifles
Rabaul Det. Base Force

Defending units:
Maizuru 1st SNLF
2nd Indpt SNLF Coy
Maizuru 2nd SNLF
51st Naval Guard Unit

 

Intendo che questa non è una novità, per i vecchiacci come me, che si sono formati con i board games fisici.
In cui ci si affronta faccia a faccia consultando una marea di tabelle e si tirano, per determinare gli effetti, dadi in continuazione e i risultati si registrano su fogli che rappresentano la nave stilizzata.
Ed ho fatto l' esempio classico per chi ha giocato Bismark, della Avalon Hill scomparsa da decenni.
Il programma, fa proprio questo, lo fa bene, in fretta facendo risparmiare un mucchio di tempo e consentendo dimensioni enormi, ma la dinamica è inconfondibile.

 

Io!

 

Compreso


Guarda, io credo che WITPAE sia semplicemente perfetto in termini di algoritmi. E' evidente che vi siano delle grossolane imperfezioni (vedi ad esempio il discorso B17 vs KB), ma complessivamente e' perfetto.

Gli scontri navali sono gestiti in modo estremamente dettagliato e sensato, uguale quelli aerei. Gli scontri terrestri sono oscuri ai piu' per il banale motivo che, a differenza di quelli aerei e navali, anche vedendo il replay ammodo non viene detto nulla.
Quindi in definitiva servono un fracco di scontri fatti e di conoscenza dei vari dettagli dei TOE e dei devices per capire come funziona. Non ricordo chi disse sul forum qui che e' come imparare la fisica quantistica su un libro scritto in aramaico. Ecco, direi che rende l'idea, ma cio' non toglie che abbia del tutto senso: banalmente, non e' facile (anzi, e' un casino) capire come funziona la faccenda.



Gli scontri navali, come nella realta', sono sempre un terno al lotto. Gli scontri fino a meta' '43 sono relativamente ok, dopo e' sostanzialmente impossibile per il giapponese fare alcunche': gli alleati sono troppo forti.

Per me sono due i grandi asset intorno ai quali impernio gli scontri navali: long lance (per i giapponesi) e fletcher (per gli alleati).


Nel late game gli scontri navali sono tutti one shot per i giapponesi: e' raro qualcuno torni indietro. Inoltre, a causa della combo fletcher+radar-della-madonna-alleati, e' plausibile cercare scontri navali diurni invece che notturni.
Di notte, a partire dalla fine del '43, sono gli alleati ad essere padroni del mare, cosi come prima della fine del '42 lo sono i giapponesi. In diurna e' un po' diverso e meno random. Inoltre gli scontri in diurna sono tendenzialmente meno sanguinosi di quelli in notturna. Se in notturna le navi ingaggiano per davvero, la battaglia diventa una carneficina visto che la roba esplode dappertutto e a brevi distanze le navi vengono crivellate da colpi tutti penetranti.



EDIT: quello che intendo sulla violenza delle battaglie notturne, per fare un esempio
Night Time Surface Combat, near Mersing at 52,82, Range 9,000 Yards

Japanese aircraft
no flights

Allied aircraft
no flights

Japanese aircraft losses
E13A1 Jake: 1 destroyed
E8N2 Dave: 1 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
Walrus II: 1 destroyed

Japanese Ships
CA Takao, Shell hits 4, on fire, heavy damage
CA Atago, Shell hits 9, heavy fires
CA Suzuya, Shell hits 2, on fire
CA Kumano, Shell hits 2, and is sunk
DD Kuroshio, Shell hits 1
DD Oyashio
DD Hatsukaze
DD Natsushio
DD Hayashio
DD Maikaze
DD Amatsukaze
DD Nowaki, Shell hits 1

Allied Ships
BB Prince of Wales, Shell hits 42, Torpedo hits 5, and is sunk
BC Repulse, Shell hits 9, Torpedo hits 1, heavy fires, heavy damage
CL Danae, Shell hits 1
CL Dragon, Shell hits 8, Torpedo hits 1, and is sunk
DD Vampire, Shell hits 3, Torpedo hits 1, and is sunk
DD Vendetta
DD Tenedos, Shell hits 27, and is sunk

 

Io ho beccato a bordo 19 colpi, di cui una grande parte di grosso calibro.

Gli alleati son presi sul groppone 90 colpi di vario calibro e ben 8 siluri a segno, piu' uno ulteriore in uno scontro precedente.

 

giochi contro Tim?

che sfiga, però!