Victoria II - Partita multiplayer

E siamo sette!

1. Enok: disponibile da domenica a giovedì dopo le 20.30 (Preferenze: Prussia).
2. uriel1987: disponibile da martedì a giovedì dopo le 20.30 (Preferenze: Francia).
3. ivaldi79: disponibile da lunedì a venerdì dopo le 20.30 (Preferenze: Sardegna-Piemonte).
4. Felipe: disponibile da domenica a martedì dopo le 20.30 (Preferenze: Russia, Stati Uniti).
5. Arminio90: giorno/orario? (Preferenze: Austria).
6. Carlos V: disponibile da martedì a giovedì dopo le 20.30 (Preferenze: Spagna, Brasile).
7. andy: disponibile da domenica a venerdì dopo le 20.30 (Preferenze: Russia).

 

cambia faccio la sardegna ci vuole un italia xD

 

Giocheremo con la patch 1.2?

 

Sicuramente con l'ultima patch, che per ora è la 1.2.

 

Martedì alle 20.30 va bene.
Possiamo iniziare tra 2 settimane?

 

Bene, allora il giorno è fissato: martedì. Come orario alle 20.30 (fino le 23.30) va bene a tutti? Mi raccomando pensateci bene e ditelo senza alcun problema se preferite diversamente, perchè quando inizieremo a giocare non si aspettano i ritardatari.

Per quanto riguarda le nazioni direi che non c'è bisogno neppure di ridistribuirle, visto che non ci sono conflitti. Gli unici due che vorrebbero avere la stessa nazione sono Felipe e Andy, ma il primo -se non erro- non avrebbe problemi a prendere anche gli Stati Uniti.

1. Enok: disponibile da domenica a giovedì dopo le 20.30 (Nazione definitiva: Prussia).
2. uriel1987: disponibile da martedì a giovedì dopo le 20.30 (Nazione definitiva: Francia).
3. ivaldi79: disponibile da lunedì a venerdì dopo le 20.30 (Nazione definitiva: Sardegna-Piemonte).
4. Felipe: disponibile da domenica a martedì dopo le 20.30 (Nazione definitiva: Stati Uniti).
5. Arminio90: disponibile solo martedì dopo le 20.30 (Nazione definitiva: Austria).
6. Carlos V: disponibile da martedì a giovedì dopo le 20.30 (Nazione definitiva: Spagna o Brasile?).
7. andy: disponibile da domenica a venerdì dopo le 20.30 (Nazione definitiva: Russia).

@Arminio90
Sì, iniziamo come minimo tra due settimane (senza dubbio non tra 6 giorni).
Diamo ancora tempo a chi vuole unirsi alla partita!

 

E' Uscita la 1.3 beta! http://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum...a-of-1.3-23rd-February-2011-Discussion-Thread

 

In ogni caso credo sia meglio giocare con la 1.2

 

La 1.2 è ingiocabile in multy, non c'è una partita che sia andata oltre il 1860 sul forum paradox

 

e meglio usare la beta secondo me

 

Io in singolo ci ho giocato... cos'ha che non va in multiplayer?




Qualcuno ha provato la 1.3?

 

Normalmente una Beta andrebbe evitata perchè potrebbe creare problemi rispetto alla versione stabile... ma visto che la Paradox una versione stabile ancora deve farla uscire (personalmente considero la 1.1 del lancio una pre-Alpha e la 1.2 una Alpha), direi che la 1.3 possiamo benissimo utilizzarla. ;-)

Tra l'altro vedo che il changelog è bello imponente, ne hanno risolti parecchi di problemi.

Codice:

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# Changes for 1.3 below.
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- AI Improvements
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- Tweaked the AI logic for techs and Gas.
- AI will now recruit as many generals as possible.
- AI is now better at assigning leaders.
- National focus AI will now remove focus from colonization attempts that are far behind an opponents colonization attempt of the same region.
- All AI countries will no longer pick the same option on events that all countries get simulatiously.
- Added more AI chance factors to techs, mainly to encourage late game factory unlockers.
- Further fixes to capitalist AI
- AI will now turn off subsidies more intelligently
- AI chance added to lots of Army/Navy techs.
- Upped AI chance on researching new ship types some more.
- AI is more likely to increase military spending if low amount of soldiers.
- AI will nolonger attempt to colonize regions where someone elses colonization is way ahead.
- AI can now delete factories.
- Fixed some Naval AI issues
- Improved Naval AI strait blocking and guarding
- Optimized an AI pathfinding check (ShouldGoByLand)
- fixed: Does the AI know how to remove factories?
- fixed problem with the ai trying to upgrade buildings that aren't there
- fixed Capitalist AI build logic: Single Closed Factory in State under L-F Government
- Fixed a bug which caused the AI to always disband at least one regiment at each reload.
- The AI learned to not build engineers instead of infantry.
- Army AI: Fixed an odds bug where the AI would grossly underestimate enemy strength
- Army AI: Improved odds calculation to look at more factors

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- Gamebalance Changes
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* Pops
- Clergy promotion now check clergy levels, not officer levels.
- A few immigration-attracting effects now also increase assimilation rate.
- Reduced default assimilation rate by 25%.
- Citizenship policies now increase assimilation rates.
- Continents can now affect provinces, which currently just sets assimilation rate depending on continent.
- Having political and social reforms enacted increase the angryness of political party being appointed.
- Low literacy POPs are now far less likely to promote
- Soldiers are now less likely to become craftsmen if you spend money on them.
- Farmers and Labourers at <20% literacy is now less likely to become craftsmen.
- Increased Mil reduction after rising to 3 (from 1).
- Mil from reform desire doubled
- Literacy is now capped to 100%
- Fixed a bug in promotion factors that nerfed promotion to bureaucrats when admin spending was above 0.
- Literate pops are more likely to promote to bureaucrats in states with under 1% bureaucrats.
- Removed lux goods modifier for generic promotion chance as lux needs are higher now.
- Fixed clerk to bureaucrat promotion.
- Soldiers may now also promote to craftsmen.
- Craftsmen now want the wage reforms more.
- Told soldiers not to promote to craftsmen in colonies.
- Clergy less likely to promote to officers when education spending is 100% and Military is under 80
- Pop's desire for voting rights to their strata doubled.
- less bureaucrat promotions when spending = 0
- pops thinking of becoming aristocrats check state scope to see if there's too many rather than the nation
- Pops will not assimilate in overseas colonies.
- Lowly populated areas will not completely depopulate from migration.
- Pops should no longer emigrate to occupied provinces
- Pops in occupied provinces should not promote or demote.
- Hit healthcare with the nerfbat.
- Made craftsmen a little more likely to promote to clerks.

* Military
- Arty brigades have defence now, techs increasing their attack will also raise def.
- Mobilisation calculation is now using merged smaller pops to not punish smaller countries so much. ie, Prussia vs France.
- Supply costs now affect military score.
- Upkeep cost for brigades increased
- Army techs increase upkeep cost more.
- Troops no longer affect colonial progress.
- MoW arty need upped to be in line with others
- Units will nolonger leave combat if they cancel movement.

* Diplomacy
- Same continent-cores and the capitals are now weighed more in warscore calculations.
- Peacecosts for taking province will not grow because of enemy is losingn territory to rebels at the same time.
- A country being forced to be released will get a truce with the country releasing it.
- Rewrote mechanics so that bankrupcies, 'gunboating' and defaults are 'on the same page':
* A country that cant pay their intresst goes bankrupt, this will put them in default to all creditors for two years
* All creditors gets a cb/wargoal to force them to repay their debts, if they win the country will no longer be in default to them
* After two years, all loans held by the bankrupt country, that it still is defaulting on, will be cleared
- Good peace offers that are declined now incur a penalty to the decliner, also added text to the peace offer message that reflects this.
- Admit Hegemony now gets all relevant countries into your sphere!.
- You can now properly influence countries added to your sphere even if you have a truce.
- No longer possible to humilitate a country which has recently lost a war (within last 5 years.)
- Being forced to disarm now reduces your badboy quicker.
- You can always influence someone in your sphere, even if at truce with them.
- Countries should now allways get a cb on debt default

* Economy
- Changed price calculation to use actual bought instead of real demand
- Increased output of underproduced RGO goods
- Complete revision of Pop needs.
- Reduced POP demand for certain manufactured goods
- Lowered electric gear factory's cement cost to be in line with others
- National focus for factory production will now be much strongerly considered by capitalists and they may ignore non-profitability.
- Intrest is now payed before anything else
- If you have no money and get no loans, expenses no longer gets payed
- Loans are now payed of in fleet orders (the private inverstors have a really big one wink.gif )

* Rebels
- Middle-class pops now provide some infantry when they rise.
- Rebels are now a bit more dangerous, as they have leaders, and will reinforce and are resilient.
- Socialists now back political reforms at half the want of liberals.
- Liberals now back social reforms at half the want of socialists.
- Military issues are no longer so extremely important for people.
- Chanced Anarcho Liberal trigger to be political reform want rather than social. No social reform want before Socialists are active.
- Anarcho liberal rebels will no longer form in bourgeois dictatorships.
- Reduced chance for primary culture pops to join nationalist rebels.
- Expanded trigger to activate commies to make it more likely.
- Farmers and labourers are a bit more likely to go socialist in equality nations with socialist ruling parties.
- Farmers and labourers are keener on pensions when not getting their lux needs filled.
- Small increase of probability of national rebels rising compared to others in the later game.
- Pops less likely to join Anarcho-liberal rebels if not of culture group or accepted
- More modifiers to make Pops go Socialist when they desire social reform
- Rebel rising popups now has a max size

* Technology
- Advantgarde Intelligentsia were found to be actually quite useful, we have returned the Intelligentsia back to it is more traditional role of being seen to be a burden to honest hard working people.
- Increased researchpoints from plurality and literacy.
- Newly created countries will now have their technologies properly initialised.
- Released countries no longer go immediately bankrupt.




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- Interface Improvements
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- Newly created leaders are now added to the top of the list.
- Supply consumption on unitview now takes current level from country into account.
- Map will no longer scroll if you are moving cursor while editing the name of a unit. (Or any other editbox)
- Fixed needs dissapearing from the pop details screen for very small pops.
- Political screen will now show the same reform allow percent in all toolstips regarding the same thing.
- Bank loans tabs nolonger toggle, but rather switch to the tab that was clicked.
- Fixed bug where poptype tooltips would show the wrong luxury fullfillment.
- Fixed a technology tooltip.
- Declare war tooltips will now state that you are in the same SoI as your target rather than that they are in your SoI if this is infact the case.
- fixed Stockpile slider: percentage tooltip should be visible over buttons
- added shortcut tooltips
- National focus sprites will now always be placed in a province owned by the focus owner. ( Unless colonization focus )
- Chance of allies joining in a war when call allies checkbox is ticked added.
- War effects can now be setup to call in allies or not.
- Unitview will now color the pop icon red if the pop is unable to reinforce or yellow if it can reinforce only at a slower rate.
- Pop icons on subunits being reorganized will now be colored the same way as the pop icons in the unit view.
- Units that are under construction will no longer flicker in the millitary screen
- Build screens will now remember what tab it was on.
- Military screen is now less laggy with large armies.
- New policical parties and removal of old parties will now trigger messages.
- War intervene screen now shows the correct reason.
- Days of insolvency for factories is now visible on the production screen.
- Unitflags will now change when government is changed.
- Parties now have a more informative tool tip.
- Fixed Message log incorrectly reports province defection
- Auto-create/assign leaders creates admirals for 1-ship fleet
- You can now disable auto assign for leaders you don't like
- Now Better scrolling in popview

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- User Modding
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- Terrain trigger now works properly in migration checks.
- Civilized trigger now works for pop & province scope.
- The 'corruption' trigger now works properly and is a range from 0-1 telling how large percentage of your country that is covered by crime buildings.
- Fixed the "is_secondary_power" trigger.
- Added a new modifier called 'global_assimilation_rate' which is for an entire country.
- Added a trigger for 'has_recently_lost_war = yes/no'.
- Infrastructure command now changes railroad level, not sets it.

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- Database Changes
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- Added a decision where secondary powers with poor relations with their master can leave a SoI.
- Leave SoI decision now uses secondary power trigger. Also moved it to Allow section so it is visible to any nation in a SoI.
- Lowered MTTH on socialist and communist enabling events and made triggers a bit easier
- Tweaked a few triggers for events to not happen when they shouldn't.
- von molke's reforms also availible to NGF/GER
- fixed ORs in Jacobin rebels
- fixed tech check in exp​ressionism inventions
- DAN/HAB changed to DEN/AUS in country colors
- name changes in cultures file from community fixpack
- prussian_constitutionalism uses monarch flag
- Israel can no longer form Germany
- The Peking Convention can no longer be enacted while Russia is at war with China
- Gifted Administrator trait now improves ORG rather than reducing it
- corrected flag name in ACW events
- corrected relation effects to use WHO rather than WITH in some ACW events/decisions
- fixed abolish_prohibition trigger
- fixed event 31507 trigger, should be for AUS rather than LOM + flag check
- event 31508 polish Committee of Independence also fires for GER/RUS
- Ship Explodes event adds correct CB
- fixed WITH/WHO in civ and gunboats too
- Disloyal Regiment event checks correct pop type
- removed needless owner scope in the Bitter rain event
- added civ check to Heia Safari! event/effect and changed WITH to WHO
- Colony Improves event only happens in colonies now
- correct poptype checked in event 36202
- correct poptype checked in event 36203
- removed check for global flag GermanizeSchlewsigDENes in event 36206 as it is not set by anything
- correct poptype checked in event 36923
- events 36940 and 36941 check correct tag (NZL)
- event 33003 checks BAV, not BAY
- event 33004 affects relations with DEN, not DAN
- Abu Dhabi checked only once in oil event
- IdeologyEnabling events now only have one picture defined.
- The Great Escape event only checks civ status once
- Friend's Almshouse event checks pop, not state
- Signing the Geneva convention requires under 25 BB, not 250.
- Dental Care Bill event modifier corrected
- The Familiar Institution and Withdrawing Privileges of the Unemployed events empty modifiers removed
- Unraveling Reform event changes correct reform
- Union Busting event only checks civ status once
- $COUNTRY$ Has Abolished Slavery event only checks civ status once
- An Age of Liberalism event flag corrected
- Springtime of Nations modifier corrected
- End of The Liberal Revolution Part 2, trigger needed an OR and now it has one.
- Potato Famine Debated, needless owner scope removed
- Insurrection event, OR added
- Revolt event checks correct flag
- Cholera Epedemic event, needless owners checks removed.
- Local Poet event modifier fixed
- Local Clergy preaches disobedience event modifier fixed
- National Martyr event, extra AND removed
- Pan-Nationalist event, empty modifier removed
- Onaction events, unneeded country and owner scopes removed
- Red John event makes pops 30% more in favour, not 300%
- Workhouse Strike events makes pops more 15% demanding rather than 150%
- fixed Upper House Dissatisfaction event effect
- fixed Free Trade & Repeal Society, Free Trade & Morals, Freemarketeering Criticized, and Newspaper Publishes Blasphemy events effects
- The Alaska Purchase now sells ALL Russian land in NA to USA and removes Russian cores there
- The Alaska Purchase event1 now has text on option B
- The Alaska Purchase decision now requires you have enough money
- Blackshirts event fixed scaled mil effect
- Suffragette Movements event, fixed UH effect
- Added owner scope to gov type check on event 36603
- Temperance League, Beer hall, Religious Temperance, Licensing Act, Temperance & Labour events check for muslim religions
- unneeded owner scope removed form beer hall opens event
- Viticultural Association event checks for country flag now, not province
- many unneeded owner scopes in workplaceevents.txt removed
- Blood & Iron Mine event won't fires for same place ehile modifier is active
- Fashion Fails event - removed empty modifiers
- anti_egalitarianism invention now correctly enables citizen guard crime
- changed ENG_2014 to 2016
- removed 3 factories from the UK and turned the craftsmen back to farmers.
- Added a revised alot of parties.
- USA proletarian_dictatorship called American People's Republic again
- Upped money from first choice in the First farmer's bank event to make it slightly tempting.
- Added starting USA colonise NFs in Washington and Oregon.
- Alaska purchase now gives ALL Russian NA to USA, not just USA's cores in case RUS takes some Canada.
- Boy shot event costs more to investigate/
- Increased attraction to fascist rebels a bit.
- Can go KUK if government = prussian_constitutionalism too!
- Added a boost to fertilizer production on the artificial_fertilizers invention and electricity tech.
- 13200 checks for truce with SoI owner.
- 13200 gives add to SoI CB/wargoal.
- Made allow/remove liquor_prohibition less spammy.
- Corrected triggers in Temperance League events
- Removed odd modifier from reactionary rebels.
- It now costs a lot more to join the Internatonal Olympic Committee.
- Changed Foreign Smugglers and Point of Trade events to give a country modifier
- Event 31505 now points to correct localisation.
- Added BUR to UK's SoI.
- Reduced brigade cost and tech cost increase a little.
- Added Linebreak to fixe liferating in Leghorn.
- Activated unused FRA parties.
- ISR won't ask GER to annex them anymore.
- Lowered mil score needed for meiji.
- Lowered Lit requirement and MttH for Enable Fascists events.
- Fixed MTTH in event 45100
- precious_metal_mine is now a mine
- Event 21030 MTTH fixed
- 1935 nobel prize events checks right flag
- Fixed the fort in Edirne.
- Venezuela now has the core on Mahdia, not Venice.
- Modena now in Austria's sphere at game start
- Changed event 19000 to not trigger followup for GPs with over 90 influence to avoid double SoIs.
- Change a Fabric factory in Boston to Canned food and made the UK's Clipper factory level2 to smooth out early game economy.
- Gave the USA 2 techs and some more bureaucrats so they can afford their navy.
- Penal colonies won't fire again if you have the modifier from it.
- Laagers attacked shouldn't fire multiple times for the same nation.
- Events where you DoW also have a choice to call your allies as it is not automatic anymore.
- FRA can't decision-annex a player MAD.
- Ideologies can only be invented by civilised nations.
- BOL and PEU start allied
- Removed the culture penalty on industrial tech school
- Removed ai_will_do from webster_ashburton_treaty and added a BB trigger
- Anarcho-liberal, fascist and reactionary rebels like no_trade_unions now
- Nations can only apply for US statehood once
- Added a VEN core on Mahdia.
- Fixed a bunch of modifiers that used literacy incorrectly
- Renamed the Benin region to Dahomey.
- BEL starts with XP railroad
- Breslau's arty factory is now open and some more craftsmen have been added.
- PRU starts with mechanical production
- Fixed when poor pops want Gerrymandering
- Added an event for TEX which grants some supplies
- Added small BEL railway
- Fixed a modifer in harassment voting issuse choice for poor pops.
- Gave pandemic_influenza global effects as it is a country modifier.


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- Performance and Stability
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- Quite alot of optimisation done, mostly focused on late game performance.
- Reported crashbugs tracked down and fixed.
- Fixed lockup with big rebellions.
- Fixed a common reason for OOS.

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- Generic Bugfixes
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- Fixed bug in land combatant where subunits were not removed from retreats when their unit was deleted.
- Population growth modifier will now function as intended.
- fixed Losing GP status incorrectly
- fixed Mass building of the same factory
- fixed Negative population w/ endgame save
- Some mod dir problems fixed.
- fixed Russia and UK on again, off again
- fixed Intervene Tool Tip confusing
- fixed discrepancy in call alliance chances
- Fixed previous owner calculations
- Fixed a bug with the order of wargoal execution on peace. This was causing some wargoals to fail when they should not.
- Fixed units stuck as builditems in the millitary view.
- Fixed ship avatars dissapearing when a ship in a unit dies.
- Closed a hole in the world market code that caused money to be lost
- Fixed bug where loading would reset the unique name index.
- Fixed a bug where the fort bonus would be given to both sides in a combat.
- Fixed a problem that caused money not be saved in save games
- Casus belli's will nolonger loose their enddate on save/load.
- Added missing "=" to several prov files
- Removed pop needs effects from many province modifiers as it's a country level effect
- Fixed a major bug that truncated savegames at some times.
- New messages should now appear properly.
- Fixed being occupied is great for industry
- Fixed Uniforms not updating fully
- Improved Gathering the following materials before construction can start info
- Fixed a few missing ports.
- Fixed a lockup with scripted occupation.
- Fixed a few spelling mistakes.

 

Troppi out of sync (fuori sincrono) con conseguenti crash/inconsistenze/save games corrotti


Oltretutto è probabile che in due settimane usciranno altre versioni beta migliorate di questa patch .

 

Per me va bene usare la 1.3 beta , oltre tutto col launcher si scarica automaticamente.

 

Ciao a tutti, mi ha segnalato questo forum Uriel e mi piacerebbe unirmi alla partita.

Siccome è una delle mie prime esperienze in multi, mi piacerebbe farlo con una nazione meno importante. Se è disponibile prenderei il regno delle due sicilie.

Non ci sono lunedì e il week end

Ciao Uriel / Sharky

 

no spe e come la faccio l'italia xD ti conviene prendere la spagna o il portogallo o paesi bassi, perche con regno delle 2 sicilie viene fuori un casino

 

Ovviamente il Regno delle Due Sicilie lo consideriamo occupato. Vale il discorso dell'altro multiplayer (ad EU): durante la partita ognuno può fare quello che vuole e nessuno ha diritto su certi territori, ma evitiamo di pestarci i piedi ancora prima di cominciare. Se c'è Sardegna-Piemonte, le Due Sicilie non si possono prendere; così come se c'è l'Olanda non si può prendere il Belgio, o la Danimarca se c'è la Svezia, e via discorrendo.

Di giocabile in pratica c'è rimasto questo:
Cina (e volendo pure il Giappone!)
Impero ottomano
Argentina
Messico
Portogallo
Belgio oppure Paesi Bassi
Danimarca oppure Svezia
Una tra Brasile o Spagna, a seconda di quello che prende Carlos V.

 

Scusate ma non sapevo di questa regola.

Scegleirei dunque il Belgio.

 

Tranquillo, non c'era nessuno regola! Semplice buon senso.
Ti consiglierei una nazione più forte (e in quell'elenco ce ne sono diverse più forti del Belgio), ma vedo che è una tua scelta prenderne una di medio livello. Più che altro devi sperare che Uriel (Francia) sia tuo amico anche nel mondo virtuale!

Scherzi a parte, per quanto riguarda Hamachi e tutto il resto, sai già come funziona?

1. Enok: disponibile da domenica a giovedì dopo le 20.30 (Nazione: Prussia).
2. uriel1987: disponibile da martedì a giovedì dopo le 20.30 (Nazione: Francia).
3. ivaldi79: disponibile da lunedì a venerdì dopo le 20.30 (Nazione: Sardegna-Piemonte).
4. Felipe: disponibile da domenica a martedì dopo le 20.30 (Nazione: Stati Uniti).
5. Arminio90: disponibile solo martedì dopo le 20.30 (Nazione: Austria).
6. Carlos V: disponibile da martedì a giovedì dopo le 20.30 (Nazione: Spagna o Brasile?).
7. andy: disponibile da domenica a venerdì dopo le 20.30 (Nazione: Russia).
8. HugoBardo: disponibile da martedì a venerdì dopo le 20.30 (Nazione: Belgio).

 

Secondo me è molto meglio l'Olanda, parti con un'impero coloniale già avviato e hai i cores sul Belgio. Certo se non pensi di volere/riuscire a riunificare il benelux, il belgio ha il vantaggio di un'industria già avviata.

Comunque strano che nessuno voglia l'uk